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I'd watch what I say at JC as well. Most users here are anonymous and wish to stay that way. But when you post pics of yourself and details of previous work history, ect, it's pretty easy for an HR person to figure out who you are. Say, for example, you interview at airline A. That HR dept has a lot of intel on you at that point. Let's say you come on JC and gripe about airline A's reserve system or first year pay. Anything. With the details from your JC posts, it's pretty easy to figure out who you are, and it sounds like HR is watching.
 
If I were an airline HR rep I'd be far more concerned about the guy who gladly posts pictures of every beer he sucks down and all the great partying he accomplishes. In other words, sensational news fodder if their name ever pops up in relation to the company.
 
I'd watch what I say at JC as well. Most users here are anonymous and wish to stay that way. But when you post pics of yourself and details of previous work history, ect, it's pretty easy for an HR person to figure out who you are. Say, for example, you interview at airline A. That HR dept has a lot of intel on you at that point. Let's say you come on JC and gripe about airline A's reserve system or first year pay. Anything. With the details from your JC posts, it's pretty easy to figure out who you are, and it sounds like HR is watching.

I would expect flight ops to be paying attention to these forums, but not HR. It'd take some pretty serious detective work to track down an individual applicant, out of thousands, and then piece together who they are from posting on here. Is it possible? Sure. Is it time consuming? Yup.

Not to say that folks should go and make fools of themselves online, but I don't expect HR to lurk on JC, FI and APC to figure out who is who.
 
I've also heard in this day and age that if you don't have a facebook, they consider that you might be trying to hide something about your personal life... That came from an airline HR employee. I was annoyed by the comment, but just passing it along.
That's like when I meet girls and am asked if I'm hidin a gf or wife because I don't have Facebook. I just don't feel like keepin in touch with someone I sat three rows behind in third grade.
 
We have a pretty liberal social media policy at work.

Even when Sean Raker and Comair Academy tried to take me down, the powers that be said there wasn't anything objectionable or wrong at all, but I use "SouthernJets" as my carrier of employ so I don't have to go through all that hassle again.

Yeah, I still hold a full grudge against everyone that was in administration at Comair and especially Sean Raker. Tracy Thomasson and I made amends after he talked a lot of smack behind my back and I happened to run into him in person and was delighted as he back-pedaled and retracted and I was happy knowing that he knew FULL WELL what I knew :)

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We have a pretty liberal social media policy at work.

Even when Sean Raker and Comair Academy tried to take me down, the powers that be said there wasn't anything objectionable or wrong at all, but I use "SouthernJets" as my carrier of employ so I don't have to go through all that hassle again.

Yeah, I still hold a full grudge against everyone that was in administration at Comair and especially Sean Raker. Tracy Thomasson and I made amends after he talked a lot of smack behind my back and I happened to run into him in person and was delighted as he back-pedaled and retracted and I was happy knowing that he knew FULL WELL what I knew :)

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I missed an episode of "As the prop turns"

Cliff notes?
 
I've heard this from HR departments outside of the airline industry.

HRDiva, what say you?
I say that there are people "in HR" who are not HR professionals. People think anyone can do the job. Wrong.

Actually a recent survey of SHRM members showed that fewer use social media to check up on candidates than previously and, if they do, it's usually just prior to offer if it's a tie or they are not sure. They cite concerns about being accused of discrimination, invasion of privacy, NLRA violations in addition to a lack of time. If one doesn't have time to do research on every candidate about to get an offer, they should not do it for any because the motive will be viewed as discriminatory intent.

As for the requirement of passwords, I had read about it and consider it a pure invasion of privacy. Again, there are lots of unprofessional HR people and people who work for unethical bosses and owners of companies (who are afraid/unwilling to cross them).

Heck, I got into a debate at our SHRM Leadership conference in November with HR people who said they refuse to even interview someone who has been unemployed! How does one know that, simply because an applicant is unemployed, they are unemployable? Perhaps they lost their job due to the economy and, simultaneously, an elderly parent became ill. So, they used the time to provide care. Refusing to even interview in that case is caregiver discrimination per the EEOC. Perhaps they or a family member were ill. Perhaps they relocated with a spouse. Perhaps there are a lot of legitimate reasons. But one would never know if they never even give them a chance.
 
So my buddy is a strange guy, good guy but strange. He is a retired Navy pilot but he is kind of out there...much like Kramer from Seinfeld. So a few years back, the day after an E-2C mishap, he posted the pics on his Facebook page, privileged photos. He figured since he recently retired, he could do that without repercussion...wrong answer. How he got them was more interesting but for another thread. He is also a Southwest pilot who in the past has posted his schedule, he got into trouble for that. He also has posted his pay, got into trouble for that, or at least warned. Be smart about it I think.
 
I missed an episode of "As the prop turns"

Cliff notes?

Cliff notes?

"Being owned by Southernjets means EVERYTHING!" and roadshows where they were using the affiliation as a marketing tool, roughly paraphrased "Train here, fly for Southernjets!"

I raised the BS flag on the main site and on the forum.

People started asking questions and challenging their marketing schtick.

Someone left ground school and the reason was "I don't REALLY have to train here to get a regional job, I'm going to go to an FBO which is cheaper and go to college"

"Who told you this?"

"Jetcareers.com"

Someone raised the BS flag at a marketing event, again "Who told you this?"

"Jetcareers.com"

T: "Oh he's on the outs"

Shawn: "Take your website down or I will have you fired for being in violation of the FOM" (which was a huge stretch)

>Hilarity Ensues<

>ALPA Contract Administration gets involved<

>Private Attorney gets involved<

I run into T in person, he backpedals, denies saying what he said and almost goes to tears apologizing when I confronted him (professionally of course). Disappears from the flight training scene.

Shawn gets fired.

Boom.

Grudges are great.

Attorney asks me "How many zeroes and commas do you want to see, we have a strong case and they know."

"Nah, I'm good."
 
I say that there are people "in HR" who are not HR professionals. People think anyone can do the job. Wrong.

Actually a recent survey of SHRM members showed that fewer use social media to check up on candidates than previously and, if they do, it's usually just prior to offer if it's a tie or they are not sure. They cite concerns about being accused of discrimination, invasion of privacy, NLRA violations in addition to a lack of time. If one doesn't have time to do research on every candidate about to get an offer, they should not do it for any because the motive will be viewed as discriminatory intent.

As for the requirement of passwords, I had read about it and consider it a pure invasion of privacy. Again, there are lots of unprofessional HR people and people who work for unethical bosses and owners of companies (who are afraid/unwilling to cross them).

Heck, I got into a debate at our SHRM Leadership conference in November with HR people who said they refuse to even interview someone who has been unemployed! How does one know that, simply because an applicant is unemployed, they are unemployable? Perhaps they lost their job due to the economy and, simultaneously, an elderly parent became ill. So, they used the time to provide care. Refusing to even interview in that case is caregiver discrimination per the EEOC. Perhaps they or a family member were ill. Perhaps they relocated with a spouse. Perhaps there are a lot of legitimate reasons. But one would never know if they never even give them a chance.

I used to work for a company(that had a HR dept),as a manager that had the authority to hire and fire employees. I often complained that HR only wanted to tell me why I couldn't hire somebody I wanted,or fire someone I wanted to fire. I have been told that I can't base my hiring decision on a persons religion, marital status, or whether or not they have children.
So let me ask this: Why do HR professionals snoop on prospective employees facebook page? It, (facebook) is a goldmine of information for which you, an hr professional is not allowed to base your hiring decision; e.g. religion, marital status, political affiliation and a whole host of other things that you wouldn't dare directly ask an applicant in an interview, but facebook is a dearth of information for which you can legally discriminate. The motivation for looking at an applicants facebook page seems a bit hypocritical to me.
 
Cliff notes?

"Being owned by Southernjets means EVERYTHING!" and roadshows where they were using the affiliation as a marketing tool, roughly paraphrased "Train here, fly for Southernjets!"

I raised the BS flag on the main site and on the forum.

People started asking questions and challenging their marketing schtick.

Someone left ground school and the reason was "I don't REALLY have to train here to get a regional job, I'm going to go to an FBO which is cheaper and go to college"

"Who told you this?"

"Jetcareers.com"

Someone raised the BS flag at a marketing event, again "Who told you this?"

"Jetcareers.com"

T: "Oh he's on the outs"

Shawn: "Take your website down or I will have you fired for being in violation of the FOM" (which was a huge stretch)

>Hilarity Ensues<

>ALPA Contract Administration gets involved<

>Private Attorney gets involved<

I run into T in person, he backpedals, denies saying what he said and almost goes to tears apologizing when I confronted him (professionally of course). Disappears from the flight training scene.

Shawn gets fired.

Boom.

Grudges are great.

Attorney asks me "How many zeroes and commas do you want to see, we have a strong case and they know."

"Nah, I'm good."

And for the record those that wanted YOU gone, where are they now
 
One guy is bouncing from jobs to jobs, hell, I got a report from one of his gigs a few years and was told that he was glad they got rid of him. The other, I really don't know. Off to Google for me! :)

TT and I got it all sorted out and made peace. The other guy, however, never manned up and made amends.
 
I used to work for a company(that had a HR dept),as a manager that had the authority to hire and fire employees. I often complained that HR only wanted to tell me why I couldn't hire somebody I wanted,or fire someone I wanted to fire. I have been told that I can't base my hiring decision on a persons religion, marital status, or whether or not they have children.
So let me ask this: Why do HR professionals snoop on prospective employees facebook page? It, (facebook) is a goldmine of information for which you, an hr professional is not allowed to base your hiring decision; e.g. religion, marital status, political affiliation and a whole host of other things that you wouldn't dare directly ask an applicant in an interview, but facebook is a dearth of information for which you can legally discriminate. The motivation for looking at an applicants facebook page seems a bit hypocritical to me.
Most don't.
 
Im fairly sure you can still be found on Facebook with the changing to your middle name/last name trick...they can and I would think employers would search by your email address if looking for a Facebook account...
 
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