Lost a log book? Anyone

JayAre

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WTF? I have misplaced my first logbook. Im missing my first 700hrs. How do you handle this in an interview? or when applying to an employer?
 
Call the FAA and get a copy of your last 8710. That would be verification of what you had on that date.
 
Well, unfortunately it's too late for you (sorry), but that should be a wake up call to all the student pilots out there to make sure that you photocopy your logbook now and again.

Pretty cheap insurance.
 
WTF? I have misplaced my first logbook. Im missing my first 700hrs. How do you handle this in an interview? or when applying to an employer?
So you do still have your current logbook? That being the case its slightly less of an issue, since you can still prove your current time. I had a colleague who lost his logbook, and all he had to prove his time was his last 8710 and a new logbook he started since he lost his first one. He got hired by Mesa, though I'm not sure how he handled the interview.
 
Yeah..... I still have my second logbook with the last 400 or so hours. it has my mei and multi comm ifr add on and 135 ride in it. I think its just misplaced the wife can remember it in the last month. I bet when we move I'll find it with some crayon drawing in it.
 
I had a student lose a logbook once. WE took his last 8710 to the FSDO and they made like a 2 page annotation in his new logbook stating that to the "best of his knowledge" the times on the 8710 and the hours he had flown since were correct. HE also used a history of reciepts from the fbo to help re-create his logbook. Our school could print out a history of when he flew, for how long etc. Unless you owned the plane, you were probably paying for it via tach time or hobbs, and someone should have records of that. It's a lot of work, but most of it can be re-created. Having a signature from the FSDO in your new logbook certifying that the times on your last 8710 doesn't hurt either.

Lesson learned....... make copies, put it on your computer, even if it's on MS excel, and keep those logbooks in a safe place! It's the only proof of what you have done until you get to a flying job where they track it for you.
 
Personal FAQ (not on my site):

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Lost Logbooks

There are two FAA sources for the information of how to handle them

The first is FAA Order 8700.1 - General Aviation Operations Inspector's Handbook
Volume 2 (General Aviation Safety Inspector (Operations) Tasks And Responsibilities), Chapter 1, Section 10, Paragraph 21

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21. LOST LOGBOOKS OR FLIGHT RECORDS. Aeronautical experience requirements must be shown for a person to be eligible for the issuance or to exercise the privileges of a pilot certificate. A pilot who has lost logbooks or flight time records should be reminded that any fraudulent or intentional false statements concerning aeronautical experience are a basis for suspension or revocation of any certificate or rating held. The pilot who has this problem may, at the discretion of the inspector accepting the application for a pilot certificate or rating, use a signed and notarized statement of previous flight time as the basis for starting a new flight time record. Such a statement should be substantiated by all available evidence, such as aircraft logbooks, receipts for aircraft rentals, and statements of flight operators.
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The, second, which is a little more helpful and goes into more detail is FAA Order 8400.10 - Air Transportation Operations Inspector's Handbook. Volume 5 (Airman Certification And Designated Examiners), Chapter 9, Section 4, Paragraph 731

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731. LOST LOGBOOKS OR FLIGHT RECORDS. Inspectors should advise airmen that they may reconstruct lost logbooks or flight records by providing a signed statement of previous flight time.
A. Proof of Experience. Airmen may use the following items to substantiate flight time and experience:
* Aircraft logbooks
* Receipts for aircraft rentals
* Operator records
* Copies of airman medical files
* Copies of FAA Form 8710-1, "Airman Certificate and/or Rating Application"
B. Obtaining File Copies. Airmen who have lost their logbooks or flight records may request copies of their files from the FAA by writing to the following:
FAA Airmen Certification Branch, AVN-460
P.O. Box 25082
Oklahoma City, OK 73125

FAA, Aeromedical Certification Branch
P.O. Box 25082
Oklahoma City, OK 73125

NOTE: Inspectors should encourage pilots to complete the flight time sections of official record forms, even though it would not be required for that specific certificate. These records document a chronological development of flight time in case personal records become lost.
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Obviously, the records used to reconstruct the logbook should be kept in a safe place. And it's not stated, but since the primary use of the reconstructed logbook will be to verify the information in the student's 8710-1, it would be a good idea to review what you did with the DPE who will be performing the practical test or with a local FSDO inspector.
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You could also talk to old flight instructors and/or students also. Your old flight instructors should be able to get you some of your time. Your old students should have their copy!
 
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