Logging SIC?

iFLY87

iFLY87

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We opperate a king air 90GTi which is a "single pilot" aircraft. The problem is Insurance requires a second in command at all times. Since it is required that a SIC be on the aircraft at all times, would logging SIC be legal? Thanks
 
(f) Logging second-in-command flight time. A person may log second-in-command time only for that flight time during which that person:

(1) Is qualified in accordance with the second-in-command requirements of §61.55 of this part, and occupies a crewmember station in an aircraft that requires more than one pilot by the aircraft's type certificate; or

(2) Holds the appropriate category, class, and instrument rating (if an instrument rating is required for the flight) for the aircraft being flown, and more than one pilot is required under the type certification of the aircraft or the regulations under which the flight is being conducted.
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Insurance requirement does not count. The SIC must be required by the type certificate or by the regulations (such as Part 135 pax carrying regs).
 
todd405 said:
Does the left seat pilot have an MEI?
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Yea that was my next question. What about logging ALL of it as dual received? I'm not trying to find a way around the regs, I just dont want to break any and want my logs to be accurate. and Crocktrocket, I noticed your out of latrobe. Do you fly for LJ by any chance?
 
Sounds similar to my job...135 in kingairs and a citation...all single pilot stuff. The fo's are just there for insurance. I log time on the part 91 legs that I fly from the right seat in the F90 and B200 myself. When I am in the B350 or citation part 91 and/or all 135 legs, I log it as dual if I am the one flying. If I am just sitting in the right seat swinging the gear and talking on the radio I won't log it. I guess you could technically log anything dual as long as the person signing your logbook meets the requirements to do so.
 
Thanks Todd. That sounds like a good plan for me to follow also. Crockrocket im out of Buckhannon wv. You guys use to have this KA.
 
Ahhh what was the number 377GA or something like that?

I never flew it but it has a nice collin proline21 with the charts and all.

It is a nice plane though.
 
we fly the Merlin part 91 which is single pilot. Two of us. I log the legs that I fly as PIC, but just put my non flying leg in under my total time in the plane.
 
Crockrocket94 said:
Ahhh what was the number 377GA or something like that?

I never flew it but it has a nice collin proline21 with the charts and all.

It is a nice plane though.
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Yeah Its pretty nice. I was trying pretty hard to get on with you guys acouple months ago, until I stumbled on to this job. How do you like flying for them?
 
Most corporate outfits want to know how much time you have in the airplane. If I were you, I would just make a new column to put this time in. It isn't valid FAA time, but can be valid for a lot of corporate flight departments.
 
iFLY87 said:
Yea that was my next question. What about logging ALL of it as dual received?
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Legally you can, but it will look bad under a few scenarios. 1) Many corporate departments will ask you "So, you have 400 hours of dual received in a KA...Tell me how that works." 2) The FAA is starting to crack down on stuff like that. If you learn something, great. Otherwise, you are just screwing yourself over in the end.

mojo6911 said:
Most corporate outfits want to know how much time you have in the airplane. If I were you, I would just make a new column to put this time in. It isn't valid FAA time, but can be valid for a lot of corporate flight departments.
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Agreed.
 
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