logging level c sim

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saviboy

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Hi
could I , can I , should I, must I log level c sim in my total time collumn or just in my simulator collumn?
thanks
 
Could you? Yes, you can log whatever you want.
Can you? Go for it, I don't care.
Should you? No, IMO, it's pointless. Especially pointless if it's just a couple hours for no good reason.
Must you? No. If you go through a sim course, you will get a training record. This would satisfy any applicable FAR's.

Why would you possibly think you could log it as total time (or anything else but "sim" for that matter)? If anything, put it in the sim column, and the sim column only.

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Why would you possibly think you could log it as total time (or anything else but "sim" for that matter)?

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Because the flight safety instructor told me so.
 
no hes not right it is not total time. it may be used to meet total time requirements fro things such as new certificates and ratings but it is not considered total time
 
saviboy said:
Because the flight safety instructor told me so.
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All of my instructors at SimuFlite told me to log that time like I was in the airplane. So I started to do that. Then I changed my mind and decided to just keep a separate logbook for sim time. Airlines don't like to see a whole bunch of sim time in your logbook logged as total time, so when I was applying at some regionals, I left the sim time out, but would still note that I had "xxx" hours in a "xx" simulator. For the corporate resumes, I included the sim time in total time.

I've asked this question around to many different people when I was living in the D/FW area. The people at the Ft. Worth FSDO said you can log everything except cross country, because the sim is not actually going anywhere. My suggestion is...be honest, however you decide to log it. If anyone asks if it's sim time, don't lie to them.
 
JDE said:
The people at the Ft. Worth FSDO said you can log everything except cross country, because the sim is not actually going anywhere.
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By that logic, you can't log it as anything either, because the sim isn't leaving the ground.......much less going cross country.
 
what about logging level d sim time as total time, is there still not much difference since it still is a sim, just the faa uses different classes for getting rating and such
 
Diamnd15 said:
what about logging level d sim time as total time, is there still not much difference since it still is a sim, just the faa uses different classes for getting rating and such
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I wouldn't do it.
 
Total 'what' time? There's no such thing as "total time" from an FAA standpoint. There's total "flight" time, which a sim is definitely =not=. There's total "pilot" time which a sim definitely is.

Simple rule: if it's asking for "flight time" it has to be in an aircraft - something that leaves the ground.

So, what do =you= use the total column in =your= logbook for? Mine says "Total duration of flight" so sim time doesn't go in it.
 
MidlifeFlyer said:
So, what do =you= use the total column in =your= logbook for? Mine says "Total duration of flight" so sim time doesn't go in it.
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Total Time for me is total flight time. There's a separate column for Simulator (FTD/Sim all inclusive, as I look at it for that purpose), though I don't log sim time anymore since I for my purposes, IMHO, it's a waste of a row.
 
I agree, logging sim should not go in total time colmn.

I have a questin though. I recently flew a level C Beech 1900 sim for about 7 hours. Can I log multi-engine time?
 
Log what you want, but I certainly wouldn't say that I had 50 hours of multi-engine on an application when 15 of those hours are in a flight simulator.

But that's just me.

Besides, aren't Level D simulators the only ones on which you can get a type rating in?
 
you can use full motion sim time towards the 75hr instrument and 1500hr ATP requirements. You can count upto 100hrs pilot time and 50hrs simulated instrument time if done in a part 142 approved facility. Also can be used for IFR currency (Ie you can log approches if you were the pilot flying) also for night and day landings, but only for the type it represents. I log all my sim time as Flight Simulator and dual recevied, but not towards total time. I log approaches and simulated instrument time if I do that. You can't log that as the pilot not flying.

So it's basically good for staying current and counts a little towards your ATP if you don't have it already.
 
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