Logging Flight Hours in the Military

kryan11

kryan11

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So I was reading on another forum about logging flight hours in the military and had some interesting questions pop up.

The initial post was about NFOs during their initial contact training in the T-6, someone had asked if they were allowed to log hours when they were sole manipulators of the controls in the first 6 flights. The answer was no, because the instructor wasn't a CFI and couldn't endorse the students log book.

This got me to thinking, a pilot in the military, doesn't posses a private pilot rating, instrument rating, or commercial rating, are they not able to legally log the flight hours they fly in the military? I know that military pilots have the option of taking a test and obtaining those ratings easily, but I know not everyone does it.

Just a thought that came into my head, and I was curious if anyone could clear that up for me.
 
Military aviators log flight hours in accordance with and under the authority of their service publications and orders. Those hours have the same legitimacy as any hours logged under the authorities of the FARs.

Also, my first post, so hello.
 
Of course their hours are legal to log. If they weren't, there'd be no mil pilots at the airlines, for example.

How they log those hours will vary by service and may or may not match 14 CFR 61.
 
They can even log the hours they obtain during flight training? How come by these same standards, NFOs aren't able to log hours in the contact phase?
 
I wouldn't be able to log any of the hours I had during flight school, aside from the hours I was PIC, i.e. solo flights. Flight school/training is a pretty small percentage of the overall hours a guy eligible to leave the service would have though, at least on the active duty side.
 
kryan11 said:
They can even log the hours they obtain during flight training? How come by these same standards, NFOs aren't able to log hours in the contact phase?
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Don't see why they can't log it as dual and total, as they are flying with an IP in the T-34/T-6 phase.

When I was in UPT, I logged my training flight as dual, turbojet MEL, and total, when with the IP, even though I had an ATP on the civvie side, I never logged PIC in my logbook except for those flights where I was solo. Namely because I didn't have a type rating in those particular turbojets (civilian rules) nor did I have a Form 8 qual check on them (mil rules). To me, that conservative logging was appropriate.
 
///AMG said:
I wouldn't be able to log any of the hours I had during flight school, aside from the hours I was PIC, i.e. solo flights. Flight school/training is a pretty small percentage of the overall hours a guy eligible to leave the service would have though, at least on the active duty side.
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Okay, that answers part of my question. I still don't understand the reasoning behind why you wouldn't be allowed to log hours in flight training, but you could after. You could technically still poses no FAA ratings of any sort, and be logging hours. I guess it's viewed similarly to not being able to log PIC hours when you're earning your PPL?
 
Yeah, what Mike said. I could log it as dual if I cared. The difference of 50-100 hours of non-PIC single engine time is probably not really making or breaking me anywhere that matters though. My apologies though, with respect to the specific question you asked. Saying "I couldn't" was not technically correct, it was more geared towards the type of hours any prospective employer would be interested in seeing (which would not be my dual'd up T-34 or T-45 hours back in flight school).
 
To tag along on this post, in Airlineapps it looks like they want you to add Other Time to Total Time in the individual aircraft times? This would be for a Herc by the way.
 
kaudbron said:
To tag along on this post, in Airlineapps it looks like they want you to add Other Time to Total Time in the individual aircraft times? This would be for a Herc by the way.
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Seems so with some airline apps. Other time is one of those times not really found in the fighter world, but lastly the heavy world (as you cite), so I'm not as familiar with when its logged.
 
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