Logbook error and job interview?

OCflyguy88

OCflyguy88

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So I was just thinking about this... I was counting up my 7 or 8 pages worth of flights (about 100 hours) and what I came up with was different from what I had tallied at the bottom. I also have a few "one-timers." I made in the next available box an entry that subtracted the amount of time I was off by and I annotated it as such.

My question is, will this look "sloppy" in an airline interview? It'll be a couple of years before that ever happens, but should I just transfer everything over now to a bigger logbook coupled with an online one as well? Continue with this logbook until it is full then get a new one? I just don't want to show up at an interview down the road and get slammed for a couple mistakes I made as private pilot.

How about you all? Did you ever audit your logbook and find the time you counted was different from what you had written down?

Tips? Thanks all!
 
If you do a search for "sloppy logbook" you will find posts going all the way back to 1986 in which 97% of all respondents agree that you should burn your logbook and look into nursing because the airlines will laugh their pants off at you.

And NO..you WILL NOT fly for food.
 
I don't think anyone at an interview actually read my logbook. They glance through, looking for neatness I guess, I have no idea.

I had an examiner once tell me after I had some errors and what not, to total up everything and make an entry in the logbook stating something like -

"Logbook Audit - Time adjusted for errors. I certify this is true and accurate on (date) (signature)."

I did that twice in my book, never was an issue. Was never even questioned about it. They'll know right away whether or not you're lying about your flight time. I just try to keep my log neat, but sometimes you will have errors and will have to make corrections. Its not a science or a checkbook, its just a logbook. Read the FAR's regarding logbooks....:)
 
OCflyguy88 said:
but should I just transfer everything over now to a bigger logbook coupled with an online one as well?
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There is really never any good reason to do this. If you want to start a new logbook, just start a new one. Don't bother copying everything.

I wouldn't bother starting a new one until you have pretty much all of the ratings and endorsements you plan on getting.

Using an electronic logbook is nice for doing the math for you.
 
Or you could write real big and end up with maybe 2 or 3 flights per page until you use up all the pages :D
 
nyalex said:
As stated above. Not an issue, the airlines aren't THAT picky.
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UMMM you serious dude??? A guy in my xjet interview class was kicked out in 10minutes because his times did not add up exactly... great guy, real nice, same flight school in OH as I was etc etc... long story short- Xjet flew him down to IAH for the interview, we arrived, they took our logbooks... and did some "random adding of pages" from what I can gather.... and they said his did not match...

Later that night I found out his total time was say for example 2000TT, and his single engine time and multi engine time didn't add up to 2000TT.. now it wasnt that simple there was more to the story than that.. but whatever it was...

HE was only off by .1 of an hour. SO.. not that big of a deal I guess if you don't want a job....
 
BTAcola said:
HE was only off by .1 of an hour. SO.. not that big of a deal I guess if you don't want a job....
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Seriously? That's pretty ridiculous. I can understand if your totals were significantly off, like 10+ hours, but .1 off and he was sent on his way!?!?
 
drunkenbeagle said:
My single and multi do not add up to my total time...
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How are you logging your sim time maybe?


To the OP ...truth is if they don't like you then they will find some reason to get you out of there. To hold someone at fault for .1 hour or a staple says alot about what's going on. Do not fly for food!
 
Get an electronic logbook (like logbook pro), and enter a few pages a day until you have it all entered. Then go back and correct your paper logbook.

Then for your interview bring a nicely printed/bound/covered from Kinkos version of your Logbook Pro logbook (with each page signed) and hand that to the interviewer with your real logbook.

I don't know the whole story on the xjet interview horror stories, but if you want the job...be precise? Don't give them a reason to send them home? Don't half ass your interview.
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Every so often I add up my SE and ME to make sure it equals TT. If I find it is off by a tenth here or there I do not even bother to back track and find the error. I simply subtract whatever I need off of one of them to put them back in balance.

It is pretty universal that all most interviewers will do is add those two up and make sure they equal TT.

Its not precise but it gets the job done and I usually double check my math before I write so I dont think I have done more than 1 or so corrections in a few years. Entries in pen, totals in pencil. I have better things to do with my time than audit my log book over hundreds of hours to find a missing tenth, I just dont care that much.
 
drunkenbeagle said:
Glider and Rotorcraft time aren't ASEL or AMEL.

I'm still dying to log some Airship time...
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Yeah. I am not looking forward to handing in my nice neat airplane leather logbook, with my ragged, torn, taped up two books that I have logged my glider time in.

Hopefully it won't be an issue though... :dunno:
 
Several of the last pages in my first logbook got removed, tore up, and defaced by my nephew last year. I copied what I could find, but I probably lost ~50 hrs to the tyke. My brother apologized and bought me another logbook that I transferred my time into, sans missing hours. That's great, but my first logbook is an absolute mess now and it still torques me off everytime I see it.

I'm not sure that I'll ever fly for a living or not, but I am sure that if I ever do decide to get a flying job, I'll (Desi Arnaz voice - ON) "have some 'splainin to do" now because of that event.
 
tlewis95 said:
Yeah. I am not looking forward to handing in my nice neat airplane leather logbook, with my ragged, torn, taped up two books that I have logged my glider time in.
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Really, what's the deal with the flimsy paper SSA logbooks? They don't strike me as being meant to last very long.
 
Just for clarification, ExpressJet is known for being like that about logbooks. As far as I know, they are the only company that does that. It's a screening process as to whether you can follow directions or not. Nothing more, nothing less.
 
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