Little Q question
- Thread starter brewpilot
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Yep, you could have 1 day of systems and 1 day of sim and that's all you would need to pass training CRJ7/9. It's such an easy airplane to learn. Just keep saying Auto or Fadec on the oral since there's not much they could stump you on and on the check ride just turn on the AP, it doesn't even turn off on single engine. I have to say though that the starting of the engines is a little complicated since they didn't just make one push button for on and off, you still have to use the throttles to add fuel.
kellwolf
Piece of Trash
6 memory items? Man, get with the program. We ditched memory items a few months ago on the -200 in favor of a nifty, laminated checklist.
6 memory items? Man, get with the program. We ditched memory items a few months ago on the -200 in favor of a nifty, laminated checklist.
Hmmm. Do you have any information on the background for doing that? Memory items are always one of my weak points and I wouldn't mind proposing alternate methods to our company and POI if applicable.
Trip7
Well-Known Member
6 memory items? Man, get with the program. We ditched memory items a few months ago on the -200 in favor of a nifty, laminated checklist.
Yeah we got the nifty laminated checklist too. And out of the 20ish procedures on there only about 6 of them we need to have memorized. And all almost of them are 2 steps or less except a couple like Stab trim runaway which is a whole 4 steps.
higney85
Property of Scheduling
No MEMORY ITEMS anymore at 9E on the -200. Common sense prevails, then a snazzy laminated checklist that tells you to stay calm, fly the plane, and look down the list.... Needless to say I like to stay current on the memory items that are not memory items that I need to be able to use as memory items in the common sense stage...
Inadvertant T/R deployment.... Hold on there... let me see what the nifty card says... Hey the FA is cold... I will turn it up... You got the paper over there?... You want me to hit the button? The card makes me ask....!
Reality.... "O, #####"... "Stow that B!tch".... OK.. now where is that card...?
Inadvertant T/R deployment.... Hold on there... let me see what the nifty card says... Hey the FA is cold... I will turn it up... You got the paper over there?... You want me to hit the button? The card makes me ask....!
Reality.... "O, #####"... "Stow that B!tch".... OK.. now where is that card...?
TUCKnTRUCK
That guy
Yep...
Auto to manual, back to Auto clears the fault often
Then again, isn't that the most common aviation fix ever... turn it off and back on again?
Auto to manual, back to Auto clears the fault often
Then again, isn't that the most common aviation fix ever... turn it off and back on again?
kellwolf
Piece of Trash
Nah, I think Ken was hinting that some guys might take TOO much time.
The problem with memory items is that memory tends to get rusty.....ESPECIALLY in high stress situations. Yeah, that's what we train for, but how many FOs do you know on the line that SERIOUSLY bone up on those and stay current more than right before a PC. Ken, you're in the minority. I bet a good chunk of those guys if I said "Inadvertent TR deploy...GO!" I'd be met with "Uh....uh....uh....oh yeah." In the time it takes them to dislodge their rusty memory, they can grab that handy card that's 3 inches from the seat.
Unless you're a total dork on the stick, even an inadvertent TR deploy is controllable (in the sim, never had on in real life). I had them give me an inadvertent asymmetrical flight spoiler deploy in the sim on my last PC. That's controllable, too. I just wouldn't want to have to fly with the yoke cranked over that far for long, but you can manage it long enough to get the other spoiler out.
machnumber
Well-Known Member
Don't count on this. I have flown with Captains that always start both themselves, regardless of what is going on outside!
USMC-SSGT
Well-Known Member
They wont during a line check or if the FAA is on board or during a PC. Besides, starting the Q is a very complex and involved procedure that should be left to the skillfull hands of our captains.
I could care less if they want to start both or any (although its rare and I typically start both since they are both typically turned during the push.) The less I have to do the better.
jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
Bingo. Who cares who starts the engine on an airplane with FADEC anyway? "Start, run...so did you catch the Dodger game last night?"
kellwolf
Piece of Trash
The way we normally start it (or at least I do since there's nothing guiding us in the manuals on who does starting when) is if it's the FO's leg, he starts. If it's my leg, I start. The other guy watches out the window and keeps an eye on the tug driver. We've both got headsets to talk to him, and we've both got a set of brakes. The only thing he doesn't have is a parking brake, which you don't really need until the tug driver calls for it.
