Leaving for class in a week...

chrisreedrules

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Leaving for the January 5th class next Friday... Driving up from JAX over the weekend before class starts. I have a few questions myself and some of the other newbs are hoping to get some answers for:

Does the company pay for air fare to/from training?

Is there much to do around the area on the weekends? I will have my truck if I need to get around.

Good place for a haircut?

Good grocery store?

Any advice for those of us whom will be working towards our first jet type/airline job?

Can anyone tell me if CLT is still attainable right off of IOE and if there are any updates to how long some guys are sitting reserve?

Should I spend the money to update my foreflight subscription and will my personal ipad be usable once I'm flying?

And lastly, I've spoken to some guys in the early January class, but if anyone else wants to, feel free to PM me.
 
You need to tell us who you're working for.

But my advice is, this will be a very tough few weeks as a new airline pilot. Don't get involved in any late night drinking sessions. Do get involved in some study sessions just to see where you are at. If you have a car, don't worry about grocery store and all that, google maps is your friend. No, don't worry about foreflight and all that. Weekends will be used to catch up on all the stuff you didn't have time to really understand early in the week. Indoc will be much easier than systems.
 
You need to tell us who you're working for.

But my advice is, this will be a very tough few weeks as a new airline pilot. Don't get involved in any late night drinking sessions. Do get involved in some study sessions just to see where you are at. If you have a car, don't worry about grocery store and all that, google maps is your friend. No, don't worry about foreflight and all that. Weekends will be used to catch up on all the stuff you didn't have time to really understand early in the week. Indoc will be much easier than systems.
Woops... PSA is who my class date is with.

And I actually just found out that they will positive space us wherever they need us to be. Which is actually making me rethink my idea of driving my truck. At a whopping 14 gph it will cost a pretty penny to drive up there. Having a vehicle sounds nice but so does saving some money at this point in my career. Thanks for the advice!
 
Set aside 20-30 minutes a night to do something relaxing to maintain your sanity. For me, it was having a beer or two and watching sports before bedtime.

As far as a car, I'd imagine you could get a very cheap rental on a Saturday, especially in Dayton. If you split the cost with a friend it gets even cheaper.
 
Hey man I went through initial back in September. I'm currently in sim training down in CVG. (You'll get to sims much quicker I had a medical issue to deal with before sims). The first week is basic indoc, honestly all you have to do is just pay attention in class and try not to fall asleep. This is my first airline job. The program is geared for us new guys, so as long as you keep the pace you'll be fine. During the first week make sure you just read the FOM chapters that are assigned every night and get all your memory items and limitations down cold. You will need to know all the limitations later in training and if you have to memorize them at that time you'll be behind the curve. After indoc, you move on to systems training. Half the day will be spent with the CBT's and the other half with an instructor. Once again, as long as you keep the pace and gain a basic understanding of the systems and switchology you should be just fine. If you want to get prepared for the upcoming IPT sessions go ahead and familiarize yourself with the flows. They are all found in chapter 4 of the FOM. There is a systems test after a week or so if systems. As long as you took notes when the instructors teaching you should be fine. After that, you go into IPT training. IPT's were very helpful for me as a first time airline guy to get my flows down and to get used to the crew environment. At the completion of two weeks of IPT training is your EOC. My EOC was thorough, but very fair. If you can pass the EOC you will pass your oral. After your EOC, you have one week left in DAY for there more IPT sessions and some oral prep called CSI. It's pretty easy. Gives you a chance to brush up your knowledge and work with other crew members in the IPT. The ground school is a pretty straightforward program, just make sure you keep up with what's being taught and don't worry about what's to come and you'll be fine.

As far as hotels, you'll either be staying at the Fairfield closer to town or the Clarion in the middle of nowhere lol. The Fairfield's nice because you're within walking distance of all kinds of restaurants and a grocery store. I stayed at the Clarion. It's not too bad. Internets kinda slow, but they have a restaurant/bar in the lobby. The also make you a sack lunch everyday. The offer shuttle service as needed. You can even get the shuttle driver to take you to the Meiers across the road (kinda like a publix for us southerner that are unfamiliar). The shuttle driver will also take you to restaurants close by if they're not too busy. There a BWW, Mexican restaurant, skyline chili, steak and shake, and a few other places close by. As far as the weekends go, you can get a rental car for the weekend pretty cheap. Id recommend hitting up the Air Force museum, presidential hangar, huffman's praire (home of the wright brothers first hangar), and there are also some cooler museums downtown. Try to take sometime to relax on the weekend. Just take it as it comes and don't worry about comparing yourself to the other guys in your class. There are a lot of previous airline guys through here currently and they already know all about the airplane, atleast that's what they say. So don't worry about them. Just make sure you feel comfortable with your progress and learning the information and you'll be fine. PM me if you have anymore questions. Hopefully his helped.
 
Set aside 20-30 minutes a night to do something relaxing to maintain your sanity. For me, it was having a beer or two and watching sports before bedtime.

As far as a car, I'd imagine you could get a very cheap rental on a Saturday, especially in Dayton. If you split the cost with a friend it gets even cheaper.
Yes, please do have beer. The people that get all wound up and stressed at training events usually don't do as well. Make sure you find a weekend to go do something extra fun where the last thing you think about is airplanes.
 
Woops... PSA is who my class date is with.

And I actually just found out that they will positive space us wherever they need us to be. Which is actually making me rethink my idea of driving my truck. At a whopping 14 gph it will cost a pretty penny to drive up there. Having a vehicle sounds nice but so does saving some money at this point in my career. Thanks for the advice!

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Everyone is giving you some good advice. About the foreflight, I would go ahead and let it go. I don't remember if PSA uses EFBs but if they do thew will 1) issue you a company tablet and 2) load it with the software they want you to use. You won't have the option to use your own device and own software when out on the line.

Whether to take your car is a touch question. I've done new hire training with my own car and without. Having my own car made a ton of difference, but my training was only a 3 hour drive from home. Not bad.

The second time it was about a 14 hour drive from home so I didn't take the car. When you don't have your car you are at the mercy of everyone else...the hotel shuttle service or people in class with a car (of which there will almost certainly be more than one). Not having a car made me feel kind of trapped, especially on weekends. Still doable, though.
 
Leaving for the January 5th class next Friday... Driving up from JAX over the weekend before class starts. I have a few questions myself and some of the other newbs are hoping to get some answers for:

Does the company pay for air fare to/from training?

Is there much to do around the area on the weekends? I will have my truck if I need to get around.

Good place for a haircut?

Good grocery store?

Any advice for those of us whom will be working towards our first jet type/airline job?

Can anyone tell me if CLT is still attainable right off of IOE and if there are any updates to how long some guys are sitting reserve?

Should I spend the money to update my foreflight subscription and will my personal ipad be usable once I'm flying?

And lastly, I've spoken to some guys in the early January class, but if anyone else wants to, feel free to PM me.
Study groups make studying more fun and usually someone can answer your questions.

Enjoy some beer, just not too much.

Go home on weekends and unwind. I don't get the people who stay there on weekends. Just because your an airline pilot doesn't mean you don't have a life. Work should always come second. That being said make sure u study when your commuting to and from home, and don't be afraid to crack the books on a Saturday afternoon.
 
forget everything you know about your current airplane or operation. Don't be the "well at my last job" guy.


I used to be that guy. :(
 
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