Latest news on hiring for ATP IPs?

aviategw

aviategw

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Greetings all,

I'm doing the 13.5 hour CFII/MEI in ATL. I start next Sunday. Studying my butt off, I think I'll be ready in time.

What are my chances of being hired by ATP as a CFI without having gone through their entire program? I did do the ME commercial with ATP in BHM, and I'll have done the CFII/MEI in ATL, but I didn't go the whole way with them.

Can I get hired as a MEI/CFII with ATP? If so, what would my chances be of getting a spot in Atlanta?

Thanks,

G
 
From what I've heard, you've got a better chance of getting on with ATP that way now than in the past. It's probably still selective, but at least they ARE looking at CFIs that do the CFI program and not the career program. I'll be in the same boat in a couple of months. I'm going out to Vegas to get my CFI/CFII/MEI from ATP. As far as getting Atlanta, I think they pretty much send you where they need you most. I'd love to get Vegas, but I'm not counting on it.
 
You submit a short list of locations you'd like to instruct at when you are working in JAX answering phones. When you're the senior guy working the phones and a location opens up then you have the choice of going there or staying in JAX until your desired location opens up, which could be a long time.
 
Ga Teck Kid,

Are you a CFII/MEI at the Atlanta location? Are you a CFI with ATP? Any ideas on their hiring patterns/habits?
 
Aviat, I wish you the best of luck for your licenses. I did the Comm/Inst Mutli add-on and was in the first Total Instructor class at ATP in Atlanta in early 03 and still trying to get hired by them. Faxed in resume numerous times and had my instructor fax it in with a LOR just before he got hired by the airlines. Still nothin... but not giving up!
 
Ga tech Kid is right... if you are offered a job you sit in JAX for some time (2 days to 6 months) it's alll based on how the hiring is going. I know some people who have been there for 2 months as of now and still waiting. If you only are willing to go to ATL you may be sitting there for a LONG TIME. But if you are among the oldest in yourhiring class and willing to move where they want you, you can be out pretty quick!
 
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Ga tech Kid is right... if you are offered a job you sit in JAX for some time (2 days to 6 months) it's alll based on how the hiring is going. I know some people who have been there for 2 months as of now and still waiting. If you only are willing to go to ATL you may be sitting there for a LONG TIME. But if you are among the oldest in yourhiring class and willing to move where they want you, you can be out pretty quick!

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I was wondering which bases go first? I did the total CFI program and in the future I might put in an application to get some multi time.

I am really interested in LAS, how long does it usually take to get in there?

Thanks
 
I doubt you'll get a correct estimate on that. The instructors at ATL have told me that, as a rule of thumb, the career pilot locations are picked first due to the apartments.
 
it's that and also the fact of when were those who are there now hired? (ie. have they been there 3 weeks or 8 months) if everyone there is new to that location and to instructing it will take quite a while if they are all 700-900 hours then obviously not long at all...
JAX is the site with the largest turn-over b/c it has the most flight time... I was there 6 months and flew 500+ hrs. there is a guy at SUA who started the day I did and is about 150 hrs or more behind me... what I am saying is that it varies greatly on location and how long the instructors have been there!
 
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, as a rule of thumb, the career pilot locations are picked first due to the apartments.

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And this is where I disagree with them, and hope everyone in the pit reads this message. The career pilot locations do have the inexpensive housing, but are also busier and tend to have a less interesting schedule. You may or may not fly a lot-the ACP is mostly sim time for the instructor. It's easy to get in a rut, and your exposure to advanced flying is limited. The ACP offices are also a lot of work, with so many instructors and students.

The one-person locations have a lot to offer. You're doing add-on ratings, which are much more interesting and the vast majority of your students are already commercial pilots, and are coming to you for a multi rating or their ATP. You can learn a great deal from the airline, corporate, freight, and especially military guys that do their ATPs here. These guys are great- I have several signed photos and plaques from guys who did their ATPs with me. You may be busy, but if not your QOL is MUCH better since you run your own office and don't have to come in every day.(=time off) Networking possibilities are better, since our smaller offices are typically located in corporate jet centers. This is how I built a considerable amount of turboprop time and received a recent job offer. I was able to rent a room for $400 a month downtown. My point is that deciding where to instruct based solely upon the availability of cheap housing severely restricts your options, options that you might not know exist.

Running your own office also demands some ability to manage and get the job done by yourself. I think a lot of instructors like to stay in the familiar surroundings of an ACP base, and not take the risk of going it alone in the field.


Just my $0.02
 
Well, I faxed in my resume. I'm waiting with crossed fingers at the moment. I'd really like to work for ATP. My instructor said that he'd put in a good word for me, and all of the folks that I spoke with said that my TT was ballpark of what everyone else had when they were hired.

My first choice of location would be the Jasper, (Birmingham) office. The Birmingham location would be AWESOME. I did my commercial multi there, and I think that it is well kept secret.

Then ATL, Dallas, Houston, Jacksonville, Pensacola, etc...I'm a Southern boy at heart, but if a location opened up in Seattle, I'd go. I just want to get hired and fly as much as possible.

Strange, but I'm more nervous about getting hired than I was about passing my CFII/MEI checkride.

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