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[jose1337]

No. Dispatch will never get KCM. At this rate pilots won’t have KCM by this time next year. Spend the $100 on Global Entry (some credit cards cover the fee) and you get Precheck included

And don't forget that certain credit cards will cover CLEAR, which depending on which airport you are at will let you in faster, especially ATL.

 

[Kev]

the more people have access to it the more likely it’s going to be abused and taken away from all of us. That would impact pilots (and flight attendants) far more than dispatchers.

Agree with the sentiment, but in reality the math...

At DL we have around 15k pilots and around 20k flight attendants.

Less than 500 dispatchers.

Drop in the bucket.

 

[Bobber]

So PAFCA-DAL trying to get dispatchers KCM? Can anyone from there share any details?

 

[azmedic]

So PAFCA-DAL trying to get dispatchers KCM? Can anyone from there share any details?

Pretty sure with the TSA taking over the KCM program they are going to want to make the membership list more exclusive and not expand it. Not to mention from a regulatory standpoint,the dispatcher only needs to transit a security checkpoint once a year for job related functions (FAM ride)


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[Bananabusdx]

“You’re not in uniform”

 

[gopherdx]

“You’re not in uniform”

“Ackkktuually crocs are officially on our dress policy”

 

[Bustedcropdusta]

Just get pre-check like the rest of us lmao. We have no reason to be going through KCM

... incoming "WeLl We ArE CoNsIdErEd CrEw" reply

 

[GoingTurbo]

The new TSA RAP Back program is for all crew members including dispatch. Pafca is using that phrasing to press the TSA to have dispatchers get crew badges and possible KCM access. If they're finally gonna call us crew members, then we're gonna make then treat us like crew members

 

[FlyingSioux1]

The new TSA RAP Back program is for all crew members including dispatch. Pafca is using that phrasing to press the TSA to have dispatchers get crew badges and possible KCM access. If they're finally gonna call us crew members, then we're gonna make then treat us like crew members

A source at PAFCA DAL told me the same. As well as I guess ALPA is suing about the restrictions being added and scrutiny with RAP BACK. So DAL is hoping to jump on with ALPA as I guess they have been improving collaborations between the unions.

 

[MT]

That’s just it. TSA have excluded us from KCM because we’re not crew members. But they called us crew members for purposes of Rap Back. They can’t have it both ways.

I don’t need KCM, but I wouldn’t say no to having it.

 

[delavega]

That’s just it. TSA have excluded us from KCM because we’re not crew members. But they called us crew members for purposes of Rap Back. They can’t have it both ways.

I don’t need KCM, but I wouldn’t say no to having it.

A DL mechanic working at their MRO told me they were included in the rap back program last year. Not sure if we’re being singled out as a work group.


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[azmedic]

Rapback isn’t new. It’s been around for a minute.


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[PHL_Approach]

Rapback isn’t new. It’s been around for a minute.


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I believe they focused on getting it implemented in order of what amounts to most at risk employees to least at risk employees in regards to committing crimes while employed. Rampers were placed in Rapback in 2022. So now they are finally getting to Pilots and Dispatchers. They weren't in a rush to get to us.

 

[Mike Deruki]

The regulation specifically states operator employees who hold a SIDA badge and crew members. Crew members is not defined. It seems like someone at the TSA has decided that dispatchers are included. The only way that is is if they are including dispatchers in their interpretation of the definition crew member. Thus it seems the TSA has made the argument for us being included in KCM.