King Air PIC Mins help please

granlistillo

granlistillo

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Talking with a guy looking for a right seater in a larger corporate jet, who could also eventually fly the King Air Single Pilot PIC. Can anyone give me a ballpark figure for INSURANCE minimums to be PIC part 91 for a King Air 200? 1000TT with 700+ multi/turbine/jet SIC enough? Squeeky clean record... BTW with a FSI initial. Not worried about the SIC requirements, Also the insurance company cooperative when they got the jet, on times.

Can anyone give me a ballpark figure? thanks in advance
 
minitour said:
Toss in a couple hundred (100-200) in type and you should be good to go.

-mini
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That is encouraging, I ask the CP if he would let me get comfortable in it with him flying as acting PIC while I fly it and log PIC. So in principle that could work but I think the boss was thinking 30-40 hrs. Thanks mini!!
 
granlistillo said:
That is encouraging, I ask the CP if he would let me get comfortable in it with him flying as acting PIC while I fly it and log PIC. So in principle that could work but I think the boss was thinking 30-40 hrs. Thanks mini!!
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If insurance is flexible 30-40 might just do the trick. That said, the B200 is a big machine and most insurance companies require a few hundred in type or...substantial T-prop time + Simulator training.

Sounds like a cool gig! Best luck!

-mini
 
I would be really suprised if 1000 TT would get you in a King Air as PIC, but I also know being in the right place at the right time can be just as important as hours.

I agree with mini, I think the insurance company will want a couple of hundred hours in type, especially with a low time guy. If this person you are talking to has been dealing with the insurance company for a while, he may be able to pull some strings. I would also think that PIC time would play into the equation somehow, which it seems you have none.
 
granlistillo said:
I thank you for your opinion, but I don't what weight to give it since you apparently couldn't resist a personal jab. Low PIC does not equate to no PIC.
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Sorry man, no personal jab intended. I guess it did read a little that way though.

What I was trying to point out, is that some companies not only require a number in the total time, multi time, or jet time column, they also look at PIC time. I know a couple of people that have been turned down for jobs in the corporate/charter world because they have small numbers in the PIC column even though they had almost 2000 total with loads of 121 jet time. I also know guys that got jobs in the same realm with less than 1000 total though.

On another note, just a couple of months ago I was turned down for a King Air PIC job simply due to the fact that I had no time in type. I had a phone conversation with the guy, and he said he was sorry, just trying to save some money on the new pilot's training and he had a lot of applicants with King Air time already.
 
dc3flyer said:
Sorry man, no personal jab intended. I guess it did read a little that way though.

What I was trying to point out, is that some companies not only require a number in the total time, multi time, or jet time column, they also look at PIC time. I know a couple of people that have been turned down for jobs in the corporate/charter world because they have small numbers in the PIC column even though they had almost 2000 total with loads of 121 jet time. I also know guys that got jobs in the same realm with less than 1000 total though.

On another note, just a couple of months ago I was turned down for a King Air PIC job simply due to the fact that I had no time in type. I had a phone conversation with the guy, and he said he was sorry, just trying to save some money on the new pilot's training and he had a lot of applicants with King Air time already.
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No I am sorry. I reread your post and decided that I reacted to it wrong. Wish I hadn't posted it. Long day flying. I appreciate the truth, and I know you are right. I think the CP likes me as a person, and we have been talking for sometime. At the end of the day, I built my house by the roof so it may be a difficult time getting that PIC. We will see, and there is nothing wrong with my present employer,but I sure wish I had the PIC. That is a whole other thread. Thanks again.
 
I was insurable on a King Air 200 with a 1.6 million hull value and 1 million smooth liability at 1500 hours TT, 300 multi and 0 turbine. I was also 19 at the time, that was a bigger negative than the lack of turbine time. This was also at the peak of the economy when the insurers were picky. All they asked for was an approved school and 30 hours in the airplane. 1000TT is low for a King Air pilot, but I don't think you'd have any problem getting insured unless the hull value and liability values are high. The premium will probally be a grand or two more than normal.

Alex.
 
It depends completely on the insurance company and the insurance itself. I flew part-time for a Fortune 500 company that required only 500 hours TT to sit right seat in a B200, but to be PIC you had to have 2500 PIC (in anything).
 
Related question: (Ok, slight hijack)...what counts as King Air time, anyway? I'm trying to find the bright side to being stuck in a 99, and the only possible bright spot in the bleakness that is this awful contraption is that time in it could conceivably be counted as King Air time. Although, what kind of King Air? 100 fuse, 90 systems, queen air wings...
 
Boris Badenov said:
Related question: (Ok, slight hijack)...what counts as King Air time, anyway? I'm trying to find the bright side to being stuck in a 99, and the only possible bright spot in the bleakness that is this awful contraption is that time in it could conceivably be counted as King Air time. Although, what kind of King Air? 100 fuse, 90 systems, queen air wings...
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100, 90 and Queen Air experience all in one! Nice! Which variants of the 100 and 90?

-mini
 
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