King Air C90 - SIC (VFR) rating possible?

ahw01

ahw01

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I might get the chance to fly a C90 later this year. It'll be a fun thing to do while building time and I can get the high altitude endorsement done too. Not being Instrument rated doesn't affect my ability to recieve training/the endorsement, and it's a cheap/challenging thing to add to the logbook.

I know some King Airs are subject to needing a type rating. I think a C90 is single pilot certified, though not sure if an SIC rating can be issued. I know it's not worth much but if I'm undergoing systems/flight training it makes sense to jump through an extra hoop or 2 to get it. SIC VFR seems not to require much (1 or 3 T/O & Ldg?) and the FSDO reviews the training record and issues you the rating. I don't even know if that means you need an examiner/inspector present. The MEI is likely to have examiner status anyway.

Could the SIC training count towards other BE-King Air ratings even if I can't be issued one for the C90?

Any thoughts welcome.

Alex.
 
There is no such thing as an SIC type in a C90, sorry. Since it's well under 12,500 it doesn't require a PIC type.

About the best you can hope for is that the PIC is an MEI, then he can give you dual instruction in the aircraft so you could log it that way.

The only exception would be if the aircraft were operated under part 135 and the OpSpec specifically stated that both a PIC and a SIC were required. However, to be able to act as SIC you would need to complete the appropriate part 135 flight check requirements before hand.

As far as transition training it is certainly valuable experience. You'll be introduced to speeds, procedures, and complex systems that you have not likely seen before. King Air's are great planes so whatever you do make sure you enjoy it.
 
Thanks Esa, it does sound like fun. Just checked and the C90 isn't on the rating required list. I'm tempted to find out about opportunities to do similar training in a BE-200 (restricted) / BE-300. I don't know the likely costs/requirements to do SIC/VFR for those planes would be for Part 61/91 (ie not 121/135)...

Alex.
 
ahw01 said:
Thanks Esa, it does sound like fun. Just checked and the C90 isn't on the rating required list. I'm tempted to find out about opportunities to do similar training in a BE-200 (restricted) / BE-300. I don't know the likely costs/requirements to do SIC/VFR for those planes would be for Part 61/91 (ie not 121/135)...

Alex.
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Oh be careful there. While paying for your flight training through CFI is ok paying for a type or any extra training is one the cardinal sins in aviation according to the "flying is teh suck" crowd.
 
Thanks for the heads up. I understand the argument for professional pilots looking at flying for a career. I may go that way but it's unlikely, and if I'm paying a couple of thousand max for some KingAir experience, and the SIC VFR requirements are basically to do some T/O & Ldgs within prescribed standards, then it seems sensible to do that.

If on the otherhand I'd do BE-300 and go and enrol at FSI and spend $10k then forget it. I know SIC ratings for general flying are not worth much but if I get the chance to add one, it's a cool thing to do.

Alex.
 
Yes (Private) Multi VFR.

The high alt would just be a new experience to add to my complex/high performance. Like I say it wouldn't cost much, fun to do in a King Air though.

Alex.
 
ahw01 said:
Yes (Private) Multi VFR.

The high alt would just be a new experience to add to my complex/high performance. Like I say it wouldn't cost much, fun to do in a King Air though.

Alex.
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With a private multi you can log the time you are flying as PIC time. That said, if you do decide to be a professional pilot you might have a hard time justifying that without going to school on the aircraft. Your best bet is still to log it as dual (and PIC during sole manipulation).
 
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