King Air B200 training suggestions

ahw01

ahw01

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I may well have an opportunity to teach ground school on the king air in the UK. The type of interest is the B200/B200GT with proline 21.

While it may not be necessary to fully type me (400 TT here), I am thinking an SIC might help me get to grips with the systems and lesson plan activity.

I have seen courses like recurrentpilot.com. They are not TSA approved, though I'm not sure if that's entirely a problem. I am speaking to FSI Farnborough also.

Any thoughts, books, or materials are of interest, happy to pass on more details via PM.

Thanks in advance!

Alex.
 
Thanks guys, I'm getting some good info. Recurrent at PDK are my no.1 if there are no TSA issues. On price they are below $4k which fits in with my budget.

I have had others come in at $4.5k to $7.5k, though some don't issue SICs or only do so to multi crew.

Still some work to do... But I'm getting there.

Any other suggestions welcomed!

Alex
 
I'm genuinely curious, what is the situation that a sub 400 hour CFI gets hired to teach ground school for a plane they've never flown and is considering putting themselves through recurrent training to generate some lesson plans?
 
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milleR said:
I'm genuinely curious, what is the situation that a sub 400 hour CFI gets hired to teach ground school for a plane they've never flown and is considering putting themselves through recurrent training to generate some lesson plans?
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And a JAA instructor too, with, assumedly citizenship of a European country...
 
I hold FAA certificates. The UK military have the king air as a form of pvt multi add-on. They do elementary training then this is the first multi they see. Jet multi is in the phenom which is a whole other story altogether.

In theory I'd need no training at all, but I'm sure you'd agree that's not sensible. Should I let someone else take the job?

Alex.
 
ahw01 said:
I hold FAA certificates. The UK military have the king air as a form of pvt multi add-on. They do elementary training then this is the first multi they see. Jet multi is in the phenom which is a whole other story altogether.

In theory I'd need no training at all, but I'm sure you'd agree that's not sensible. Should I let someone else take the job?

Alex.
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If you've never flown it and are teaching the military, I'd say yes, pass.
 
milleR said:
I'm genuinely curious, what is the situation that a sub 400 hour CFI gets hired to teach ground school for a plane they've never flown and is considering putting themselves through recurrent training to generate some lesson plans?
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moxiepilot said:
If you've never flown it and are teaching the military, I'd say yes, pass.
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Perhaps you two should look at the backgrounds of the instructors at FlightSafety and CAE. @ahw01 is more qualified than most of the new instructors at these two companies. AND, from my experience, he's much more motivated because he WANTS to improve himself.
 
No worries. I agree that the senior CFIs teaching the course currently are right to voice concerns, but they are not insurmountable. Whether I am the right choice vs another more conventional candidate is up to them of course...

Most ground instructors at regionals are 'only' CFIs. My last potential job was at test pilot school teaching Aerodynamics so you can see the lack of expertise that exists in uk military training. Whether those things are right or not... :-/

I do have 12 years at a London University as well as embry Riddle experience. We shall see...
 
milleR said:
I'm genuinely curious, what is the situation that a sub 400 hour CFI gets hired to teach ground school for a plane they've never flown and is considering putting themselves through recurrent training to generate some lesson plans?
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There's a CFI at my flight school that recently quit (pretty sure he had less than 1000 hours) to become a Falcon 50EX ground instructor at Flight Safety
 
I'll let you know of course. This is a pretty small niche. There aren't many other chances to do it unless I go civilian. Then I have to convert to EASA or whatever comes post Brexit.
 
dustoff17 said:
Perhaps you two should look at the backgrounds of the instructors at FlightSafety and CAE. @ahw01 is more qualified than most of the new instructors at these two companies. AND, from my experience, he's much more motivated because he WANTS to improve himself.
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I know Alex's past although we've never met, and I've been impressed with his career advancement and motivation over the years.

It's not a dig on him or lack of confidence in him, but it is a different ballgame. I do have experience in this area, and that was my recommendation. If he wanted me to blow smoke, then he should have asked to only be given a specific answer.
 
moxiepilot said:
I know Alex's past although we've never met, and I've been impressed with his career advancement and motivation over the years.

It's not a dig on him or lack of confidence in him, but it is a different ballgame. I do have experience in this area, and that was my recommendation. If he wanted me to blow smoke, then he should have asked to only be given a specific answer.
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Mine was more of a dig on FlightSafety and CAE than anything else.......
(more about FlightSafety as I have personal experience there)
 
I think we can probably all agree that smart people can teach anything but hands on experience adds a new dimension. In some cases this is good, in some cases not so much, both bad and good habits perpetuate through the teacher.
 
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moxiepilot said:
I know Alex's past although we've never met, and I've been impressed with his career advancement and motivation over the years.

It's not a dig on him or lack of confidence in him, but it is a different ballgame. I do have experience in this area, and that was my recommendation. If he wanted me to blow smoke, then he should have asked to only be given a specific answer.
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Appreciate your comments MP. I have been thinking the last few days. It's right to pursue things and see where they lead. I felt I had a level with the chief ME pilot there when we were talking backgrounds, though clearly I can't match him, no where near. I can't blame the board if they hire me in error as it were, so I have to go in eyes open.

They can offer me the elementary teaching role, so that may be the compromise, we shall see.
 
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