King Air 200 insurance mins

[avi8tor1983]

I had a phone interview for a position flying King Air 200's in the Ambo config today and I was told that I'm right on the edge for insurance minimums. A bit confusing for me since I'm 3100 TT, 1000 TPIC and 1000ME PIC. Any ideas on what the mins could be for something like this?

 

[rframe]

Time in type?

 

[avi8tor1983]

See that might be it. 0 KA time at all

 

[Fly_Unity]

Insurance for our company let me fly 135 single pilot at 3800 TT 600 multi, 100 PIC in type (KA 90)

 

[mshunter]

Seems to be about industry standard to me. 3000tt seems to be the minimum, and 3100tt is right on the edge.

 

[SIUav8er]

3000 for a king air? wow... it definitely seems steep to me! Although I know nothing of the insurance biz.

 

[FlyingScot]

I just got done talking to the insurer for my new job. It was very informative and painful, and was a quick reminder of why I am glad I fly airplanes for a living. There is such a thing as an open pilot warranty, this means anybody having these flight times is covered under the insurance policy. For a king air 350 it is
3500TT
2000 ME
KA 350 School in 12 months
250 in type.

I imagine it is something similar in a 200. They can also add someone to the policy individually, your name will be listed on the insurance as being covered, even though you don't meet the open pilot #s. Your boss will have to submit a pilot experience forum to the broker, who will take it to the underwriter, who with your times may approve you or not. As an example I was approved with no KA350 experience just 350 school. My guess is if you impressive during the interview they would make it work.

 

[Dugie8]

We had guys as PIC on beechjets with 2500tt


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[FlyingScot]

We had guys as PIC on beechjets with 2500tt

Jets are different. Its easy to get 500 hours as SIC in type and then get listed as an approved pilot. I am always shocked to meet a Gulfstream Captain with fewer hours than me.

 

[Dugie8]

No SIC time.


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[scooter2525]

3000 for a king air? wow... it definitely seems steep to me! Although I know nothing of the insurance biz.

More the likely it has more to do with the operation instead of the aircraft. AMF puts guys in 99s with 1200 TT, but they aren't flying air ambo. Other companies that acreditate air ambo companies have requirements of medical crew, pilots etc.

 

[milleR]

More the likely it has more to do with the operation instead of the aircraft. AMF puts guys in 99s with 1200 TT, but they aren't flying air ambo. Other companies that acreditate air ambo companies have requirements of medical crew, pilots etc.

I think it has more to do with the operator. AMF et al. has an intensive ground school with an inhouse training department that takes weeks or months to go through. Most smaller companies just send you off to sim school for a week and then you're out flying.

 

[deadstick]

A word of caution on the "open pilot clause"...all that means is that the insurance company will cover the owner for a loss, however it does not protect YOU as the pilot from getting a bill from the insurance company. Get named on the policy.

 

[FlyingScot]

A word of caution on the "open pilot clause"...all that means is that the insurance company will cover the owner for a loss, however it does not protect YOU as the pilot from getting a bill from the insurance company. Get named on the policy.

I am named on the policy, but I was asking about naming someone on the policy and waivers of subrogation. That's when the insurance guy went into details of how it all works. It made me glad I fly for a living and afraid to fly someone else's plane at the same time.

Dugie,
I am interested in hearing what type of other time the pilots had to be PIC of a jet at such low time. I am finding things are very different in the corporate world.