JetBlue Landing Gear Problems

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The pushback of the Jetblue planes is done by America West Ramp agents in Burbank so if this comes out to be somehow their fault, they are in big trouble.
Jet Blue uses the gate befre last one in terminal A, it used to be Aloha's gate. Anyways it is really hard to push an enormous A320 in such a limited space so the nosegear does some extreme turns.
All and all I watched it land live on TV, infact my friend was telling me the other day why do we need so many pilots with all the advanced technology that we have and I guess he got hi answer today.
And for all the confusion over here, A320 CAN NOT dump fuel and that was the reason they got clearance to fly in a lower altitude for well over 2.5 hours, so they could burn the fuel.
Good job to the crew, you are worth every penny.
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Did the pilot squak 7700 or just stay in touch with ATC at all times?

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He wasn't squaking 7700.
 
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Did the pilot squak 7700 or just stay in touch with ATC at all times?

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No need to squawk emergency if ATC knows who he is, what he needs to do, has been working him, and is in contact with him.
 
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Any official word on whether or not the A320 can jettison fuel? Any A320 pilots here?


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Not an A320 pilot............but from what I understand from a friend in the bussiness is that no they can not.

That was a very impressive landing. The fact that the wheel strut kept up is a tribute to the airbus design.


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So I'm a little confused. Its fine if its something like we had this evening where they can fly around for several hours to burn fuel to get down to landing weight, but what if there was an engine fire/failure or something a little more "lets get the hell down ASAP" and they can't dump fuel. What do they do then?
 
I saw it at a Buffalo wings restaurant/bar in Grand Forks, it was amazing, those pilots did an excellent job. Just wondering any names of the pilots?
 
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So I'm a little confused. Its fine if its something like we had this evening where they can fly around for several hours to burn fuel to get down to landing weight, but what if there was an engine fire/failure or something a little more "lets get the hell down ASAP" and they can't dump fuel. What do they do then?

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If you have a no-kidding, and you don't have the time to screw around burning off fuel (fire, etc), then you land. There's no other choice.......you roll the dice. This would come under the "factors outside your control" that you'd have to deal with.
 
yeah.. the crew did do a great job, doubt they'd see any raise for it but maybe more than one "good job" buddy pass or something!

however, has anyone noticed that the media hasn't said anything about maintenance on the plane? for all we know, had it been another airline, the media would have been screaming "where's the maintenance records NTSB?"

anyone know where jetblue's maintenance is based or if the NTSB is even looking into the maintenance?
 
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moved everyone to the back?? how's that work when there are oh so many seats and seatbelts?

are you saying people were standing on landing??

Chris - you should know better than to trust what's being said on A.net.. shame on you!!
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Kristie

Lord knows that I am not a pilot, but, if there were 149 people on a A320, which has close to 160 seats, they could have moved everybody to as far back as possible, leaving perhaps the first couple of rows open. Of course, everbody would be in a seat.........

This way, there way, there would be less weight in the front of the airplane, if the story turns out to be true...

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I know, but when it was "confirmed" by a second source (albeit less reliable), I bit. But the point stands that you shouldn't assume that it's a guy when it may actually be a gal.

But, they didn't leave the strobes on, and we all know how women and blinkers go
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(I keed, I keed)

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...Your a guy? I have been trying to figure out if you were a guy or a girl for weeks!!!
Your avatar if that is you was kinda ambigous...

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I can't confirm this, but I was told that there is/was an AD for the nose gears for Airbus. Like I said I have no idea if this is true someone just told me 156th hand.

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no, it was a service bulletin. not sure what it said though
 
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yeah.. the crew did do a great job, doubt they'd see any raise for it but maybe more than one "good job" buddy pass or something!


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Well, a smart pilot would have passed out the tip jar!
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yeah.. the crew did do a great job, doubt they'd see any raise for it but maybe more than one "good job" buddy pass or something!

however, has anyone noticed that the media hasn't said anything about maintenance on the plane? for all we know, had it been another airline, the media would have been screaming "where's the maintenance records NTSB?"

anyone know where jetblue's maintenance is based or if the NTSB is even looking into the maintenance?

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Kristie,
Most if not all of our maintenance is done in JFK
 
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So I'm a little confused. Its fine if its something like we had this evening where they can fly around for several hours to burn fuel to get down to landing weight, but what if there was an engine fire/failure or something a little more "lets get the hell down ASAP" and they can't dump fuel. What do they do then?

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You do an overweight landing. It's no big deal and is even done in non-emergency situations. I've done a few of them on mechanical returns where we don't want to wait for 3 hours burning fuel just because we're going back to fix a generator. Engine out? Go back and land. If you are light enough to climb out from V1 you are light enough to fly back and land.

The only reason these guys burned fuel is it was a gear problem and that was the best course of action.

BTW. I can't understand why so many pundits (on CNN anyway) including Al Haynes were so sure the nose gear would fail. It went pretty much as I thougt it would. The only problem would have been if the nose wheel was free to turn and got into some vicious shimmy.
 
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BTW. I can't understand why so many pundits (on CNN anyway) including Al Haynes were so sure the nose gear would fail. It went pretty much as I thougt it would. The only problem would have been if the nose wheel was free to turn and got into some vicious shimmy.


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During the landing, the rubber on the tire actually lasted for quite some time, perhaps this helped? Had the rubber on the tire gave way earlier, it perhaps the nose gear could have failed>>>
 
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Even if you can dump fuel, in the larger aircraft (DC10 and up), it can take the better part of an hour to dump enough anyway. Our dump rate starts at around 5500/hr, but that's with all the tanks full and dumping. As tanks start to empty, the remaining tanks don't dump as fast, as they each use their internal pumps. Even if it did go at the above rate the whole time (and it doesn't), it takes a while to dump 200,000 pounds of fuel or more. Something is serious enough, you land overweight.
 
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I heard something about airport officials placing foam on the runway...what's the foam for?
 
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The foam is in case they have to do a belly landing, that is all I know but in this case the landing gear would not retract so I don't know why everyone was prepared for a belly landing too. Belly landings are done when the gear won't come down.
 
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I heard something about airport officials placing foam on the runway...what's the foam for?

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Yeah, I kept hearing the foam comment, they were from some of the olders newscasters, the foam was used, more often in the older days.....

Larry King mentioned the foam comment about 4 different times, he had the room laughing when the airplane stopped moving & he said that he did not see any foam on the ground..
 
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I was wondering if someone had verified there was absolutely no chance of a gear collapse happening after the incident before they started deplaning people from the normal forward door.
 
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