Jet type rating time VS. PIC time
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Yeah...I believe thats it....so will the hours logged as SIC on type be useless here though?
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No. I'm dazzled at why you'd think they would be?
BTW, "Second Officer" at least in the states, generally means "Flight Engineer". But a "First Officer" is a co-pilot who logs 'Second-in-command" time.
Yeah...I believe thats it....so will the hours logged as SIC on type be useless here though?
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No. I'm dazzled at why you'd think they would be?
BTW, "Second Officer" at least in the states, generally means "Flight Engineer". But a "First Officer" is a co-pilot who logs 'Second-in-command" time.
Kingairer
'Tiger Team' Member
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FO's and IRP's are a little different.
Some airlines have type rated CA's (obviously) and type-rated FO's for international ops, but the IRP/cruise pilot generally does a non-type rated quickie course.
I thought I uhh, already said that.
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we are speaking of different things
FO's and IRP's are a little different.
Some airlines have type rated CA's (obviously) and type-rated FO's for international ops, but the IRP/cruise pilot generally does a non-type rated quickie course.
I thought I uhh, already said that.
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we are speaking of different things
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The way it goes is after reaching 10000 feet you sit on the right seat. We can't log that it as SIC? At least for resume purposes?
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That's not what I said.
I'm not familiar with the legal interpretation of an international relief pilot.
Go fly man!
The way it goes is after reaching 10000 feet you sit on the right seat. We can't log that it as SIC? At least for resume purposes?
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That's not what I said.
I'm not familiar with the legal interpretation of an international relief pilot.
Go fly man!
DE727UPS
Well-Known Member
"im only going foreign as a stepping stone...will this be an advantage for me?.."
I think if you have the right to fly and work in both your fathers airlines country and the USofA, you can't go wrong with getting some big jet widebody international experience until such time that you have the quals to get on with a US major.
I think if you have the right to fly and work in both your fathers airlines country and the USofA, you can't go wrong with getting some big jet widebody international experience until such time that you have the quals to get on with a US major.
EagleATR
New Member
What you're talking about is not a second officer in the US, it's a relief pilot. From what I understand, as the relief pilot, you can log the time in the seat that you are flying as SIC.
As for you other questions about Jetblue and Southwest, I know that Southwest requires PIC turbine. I'm not sure about Jetblue. You can have a million SIC hours, but unless you meet the PIC requirements that those airlines have, it won't do you a lot of good.
I don't know what foreign airline you're looking into, and, frankly, it doesn't really matter. The important question would be: What is the upgrade time to captain? You might be able to make FO there in a year, but would it be better to look into a domestic regional where the upgrade time is shorter? That may help you get to your goal faster than going foreign.
The most important thing, at least domestically, is turbine PIC. Based on your goals, you need to go wherever you can get that soonest.
As for you other questions about Jetblue and Southwest, I know that Southwest requires PIC turbine. I'm not sure about Jetblue. You can have a million SIC hours, but unless you meet the PIC requirements that those airlines have, it won't do you a lot of good.
I don't know what foreign airline you're looking into, and, frankly, it doesn't really matter. The important question would be: What is the upgrade time to captain? You might be able to make FO there in a year, but would it be better to look into a domestic regional where the upgrade time is shorter? That may help you get to your goal faster than going foreign.
The most important thing, at least domestically, is turbine PIC. Based on your goals, you need to go wherever you can get that soonest.
GaTechKid
Well-Known Member
Jay,
If you really want to build some PIC time then you can have my instructing job and I'll take your place flying a widebody jet on sweet sweet international routes. It'll be difficult for me and I know it'll set me back career-wise but anything to help out a fellow pilot. Just PM me your sister or (female)cousin's contact info and we'll work out the details. Thanks
PS. Listen to Doug
If you really want to build some PIC time then you can have my instructing job and I'll take your place flying a widebody jet on sweet sweet international routes. It'll be difficult for me and I know it'll set me back career-wise but anything to help out a fellow pilot. Just PM me your sister or (female)cousin's contact info and we'll work out the details. Thanks
PS. Listen to Doug
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Gee thanks!! Obviously I didnt get a clear answer...if you cant help...just shut up!! I dont need smart asses like you!!
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Nor do we need double posts. If you don't get a good answer to a question you posted, don't repost the question, since it already exists in another thread. Simply go to the existing thread and post there asking for any more answers.
Remember the "no-double posting" rule? I don't want to have to keep revisiting this ad naseum.
Carry on.
Gee thanks!! Obviously I didnt get a clear answer...if you cant help...just shut up!! I dont need smart asses like you!!
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Nor do we need double posts. If you don't get a good answer to a question you posted, don't repost the question, since it already exists in another thread. Simply go to the existing thread and post there asking for any more answers.
Remember the "no-double posting" rule? I don't want to have to keep revisiting this ad naseum.
Carry on.