Absolutely nothing. But I'm waiting for the day I have the guts to say, "roger, maintain TCAS separation from that traffic, descend and maintain...". Seriously, we are still required to maintain applicable separation so it doesn't do us much good.Actually kind of a pet peeve of mine when another pilot says it, but without visually spotting the traffic, what in the world does "I've got him on TCAS" do for the controller, if anything?
It does nothing for the controller. But it sounds wicked cool!what in the world does "I've got him on TCAS" do for the controller, if anything?
What's this TCAS you speak of oh wise Taylor.![]()
They just taught us that with enough determination any girl can look hot.I thought they teach you that stuff at ERAU?
I went mildy balistic a few weeks ago when my FO said 'they had the traffic on the fish finder.'
That's the RA I was talking about, resolution advisory. The way I understood it was that if they get one with traffic that they don't know about, they have to follow the RA whereas if we tell them about traffic around them...they don't...in a nutshell. I'm sure there's more to it but from an ATC side...it doesn't help. You gotta see them out the window.I thought you gray "headed airline" guyswould have already mentioned this but aren't the times you are allowed to deviate from an ATC clearance when it will compromise saftey, during an emergency, or when you recieve a traffic solution form the TCAS, or something like that? It would make sense then that the TCAS is used to confirm the pilot's traffic, right? I'm not sure if I worded that properly....
That's because we do an immense amount of air-air work with the radar and are very comfortable using it as a primary means of situational awareness on aircraft that are out of our visual range.Even better are the F15 pilots at my base that report the traffic on their air to air radar and want to follow it to the airport with it :banghead: so frustrating trying to get them to call visual since radar contact from the pilot means nothing.
If I get an RA, I'm following the RA guidance whether I think I see the traffic or not. I might be looking at the wrong traffic without realizing it, for all I know. The ALPA safety department makes a very big deal out of this. Never ignore RA guidance!That's the RA I was talking about, resolution advisory. The way I understood it was that if they get one with traffic that they don't know about, they have to follow the RA whereas if we tell them about traffic around them...they don't...in a nutshell.
What if ALPA told you to ignore it, would you listen to that too?If I get an RA, I'm following the RA guidance whether I think I see the traffic or not. I might be looking at the wrong traffic without realizing it, for all I know. The ALPA safety department makes a very big deal out of this. Never ignore RA guidance!
You have anything of substance to add, or just mindless union hatred as usual?What if ALPA told you to ignore it, would you listen to that too?
Not hating at all. Just wondering why you have you bring ALPA into the convo when there are many things published that a pilot should read before listening to the holy union. I suppose you could say " I follow what the FOM or OpSpecs says" or "the TCAS is there for a reason, I shouldn't ignore it." Pretty sure the FARs talk about it too.You have anything of substance to add, or just mindless union hatred as usual?
Of course you can always ignore ALPAs advice like these guys did:What if ALPA told you to ignore it, would you listen to that too?