Interesting info out of N90
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Zeppelinpilot
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When I took a tour of N90, I was told the exact same thing. I really couldn't believe it.
When I was there, two training classes had just ended the week before.
They said that of a class of 5 for the EWR area, only 2 passed.
And of a class of 3 for the LGA area, only 1 passed.
When I was there, two training classes had just ended the week before.
They said that of a class of 5 for the EWR area, only 2 passed.
And of a class of 3 for the LGA area, only 1 passed.
AFTOFAAATC
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Well, when in Rome. That doesn't actually fit this situation. Agree to disagree.
AFTOFAAATC
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Just wait. It is called a tough and unforgiving crowd.
MstngPilot
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That is a toughy to understand. But I know that I am headed to N90 soon (just finishing up the hiring process). I think I will be good to go there. I was a controller at Nellis AFB for 4 years, plus I am a CFI, CFII, MEI with 1800 hours in the air. I am looking forward to it and can't wait to help out in the facility. I will also try my best to make sure everyone I am paired with makes it too.
~JP
PS - Sorry if that sounded cocky, just eager to get rated (even though it usually takes an unGodly amount of time!)
~JP
PS - Sorry if that sounded cocky, just eager to get rated (even though it usually takes an unGodly amount of time!)
HonuPineapple
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A new controller at TEB just got fired for clearing a plane to land on a closed runway.
FAA delays flights into LaGuardia due to controller staffing shortage at New York TRACON
And Honu, is there more to the TEB story... can I read about it somewhere?
And Honu, is there more to the TEB story... can I read about it somewhere?
BoomerSooner77
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nathanw
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Yeah except honest mistakes can kill people in this job.
I don't believe it. Unless they had really #####ty instructors, that was one of the things covered the first week at the academy in basics. I should know, I just finished mine.. We took our first block test last Monday and the class average on the material was a 91. I guess they could just be moronic but most of the individuals I've come in contact with are pretty bright here. I'm OTS myself and can definitely say I'm learning lots. Just trying to absorb as much as I can so I can apply it down the line.
propcircles
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exaggeration, at best. . .
Zeppelinpilot
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Look, I can't tell you for sure what did or did not happen. But when I was there, speaking to someone who worked in the training department, I was told that a (singular) student who had graduated from OKC:
"did not know what the numbers on the runways meant"
Don't know anything about a 20 min lesson resulting in the student(s) still not understanding it.
But one way or another, this must be very frustrating for all involved.
HonuPineapple
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That's all I know. I heard it through the TEB corporate pilot grapevine.
Word is that a controller cleared the plane to land as some guys were putting the X on the runway. The pilots didn't double check the clearance, but I'm not clear on whether they could see the X or not, so that may not be their fault. Definitely a mistake on the controller's part. Sounds like it was just one guy who made the mistake at the tower. He got fired.
I don't have any sources in print to verify this. As I said, heard it though the rumor mill. The folks who told me were justthisclose to banging their heads on the wall at the stupidity of the controller.
UpstateNY posted a link to the Star Ledger story a few posts up... it doesn't mention the controller being fired (though I can see that being true) and the FAA is saying he was a "fully certified controller"