Instrument steep turns

buzzin77

buzzin77

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Those diagonal lines on the bottom half of the artificial horizon make instrument steep turns a breeze. The first line is 20 degrees, and the steeper line is 45 degrees. If you put the "miniature airplane" wings on it, with the dot on the horizon, you're golden. Put the "wings" below, and you lose altitude, put them above, and you're climbing. Never noticed that until today.

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Is an instrument steep turn required in ANY PTS these days? I haven't looked at ATP for a while, but I know they aren't in instrument.
 
MidlifeFlyer said:
How were you doing instrument steep turns (or for that matter any instrument flight) without realizing that? :eek2:
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It wasn't until my CFII that I realized all I had been taught about instrument flying was just enough to not get me killed in ideal situations.
 
I was never taught that but I figured it out on my own.

Adler said:
It wasn't until my CFII that I realized all I had been taught about instrument flying was just enough to not get me killed in ideal situations.
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Same here.
 
MidlifeFlyer said:
How were you doing instrument steep turns (or for that matter any instrument flight) without realizing that? :eek2:
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There's no such thing on the G1000 (the yellow chevron aligns at 20 degrees bank), which is what our school uses for the instrument rating. My CFI never noticed, either, until I pointed it out. And he's been doing this a while. Also, not every attitude indicator has those diagonal lines.
 
What about using the hash marks around the top of the dial?

edit to add: normally you have to put the dot slightly above the horizon line in a steep turn to hold altitude. Around 3 degrees nose up works in the planes that I'm in.
 
SteveC said:
What about using the hash marks around the top of the dial?

edit to add: normally you have to put the dot slightly above the horizon line in a steep turn to hold altitude. Around 3 degrees nose up works in the planes that I'm in.
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Funny, it's almost exactly the same in a 172. Turns out a plane is a plane...
 
MidlifeFlyer said:
How were you doing instrument steep turns (or for that matter any instrument flight) without realizing that? :eek2:
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A lot of older AI's don't have those reference lines- just a short horizontal line to mark 10, 20 & 30 degrees of pitch up or down. A lot of those older AI's are still in use, too
 
Fly freight. You'll do instrument steep turns. On a 90* intercept one mile from the centerline at 2000, " 2 miles from FIXIE, turn left heading 050 maintain best forward speed to FIXIE cleared ILS runway 02 to the ABC airport maintain, 2000 till established, report cancellation or arrival time this frequency change to advisory approved."
 
ppragman said:
Fly freight. You'll do instrument steep turns. On a 90* intercept one mile from the centerline at 2000, " 2 miles from FIXIE, turn left heading 050 maintain best forward speed to FIXIE cleared ILS runway 02 to the ABC airport maintain, 2000 till established, report cancellation or arrival time this frequency change to advisory approved."
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Works good for a quickie course reversal if you get stuck doing a full procedure too. Hit the fix, 90 left steep turn, 270 right steep turn, bam, back on course just outside the FAF.
 
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