What are the chances of any significant increases in pay across our field over the next few years? I'm honestly not greedy when it comes to pay, but it scares me thinking about things in the long term. I honestly am curious about how dispatchers manage to live comfortably working for companies like B6, which is based in one of the most expensive cities in the country.
Industry-Wide Pay Increases -- What's the Possibility?
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Delta Echo
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Airlines are going to have to up the ante to retain talent. As contract revisions are negotiated, the players will start to offer more, IMO.
Regionals, too. I know they've had recent increases. YX is at 22/hr, EDV is 21.01, Envoy is 19.58, OO is 20.88 currently. Envoy and OO would be a lot more appealing if their starting pay was more aligned with YX.
Edited - Envoy is now 19.58 per their current posting Dispatcher in Irving, Texas | Careers at Envoy Headquarters (icims.com)
Edited - Envoy is now 19.58 per their current posting Dispatcher in Irving, Texas | Careers at Envoy Headquarters (icims.com)
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Bananabusdx
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PDT up to $23
gopherdx
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Only a small handful of dispatchers actually live in NYC, most live in the suburbs of LI, CT, NJ where the QOL/COL is much better. This is also why the attrition rate is very low at B6. I can count on one hand of dispatchers we’ve lost to other majors and those were not for money reasons specifically.
With that said, I do see big increases coming this year for all airlines. At B6, we get a compensation review every two years. Typically the company wants to keep our pay just slightly above peer average which is comprised of all the major airlines and not including regionals. Given the recent raises and the ones in negotiations now, we’re in a pretty good spot to see at least 10% across the whole scale. Also, given the threat of a union vote (with NK dispatchers), I’m sure B6 will try to really sweeten the pot for both B6 and NK dispatchers to vote out PAFCA. Again, this is just my opinion and what actually happens only the company knows.
That's crazy lol. I'm over at QX and we make less than that in an area with extremely high COL comparatively. I'm glad it looks like better things to come -- I do think given the fact we share responsibility with the PIC for flights. My fingers are crossed we all get what we deserve!
On the bright side, MQ bros go straight to AAL in 6 months*.
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Funny you bring that up -- I was speaking with my trainer yesterday and she told me that one of the local burger chains is paying burger flippers $25 an hour -- $2.15 more than I get paid!
Wait...that's not actually a thing is it???
Bananabusdx
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Multiple people have previously gotten offers while they were still in ground school at MQ and started at or before the 6 month mark.
MountainsOrBeach
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Yep there’s people in classes right now. 6 months at Envoy… no previous dx experience. There’s also AA internals with 0 dx experience in classes. But they did routing and load planning in the IOC at least. The company was discussing recently how they need to flow in more dxers from PSA and Piedmont as well though. They see the huge imbalance between how many they hire from Envoy vs the other two.
RegionalDXer
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when MQ uses the same exact system, etc it’s a very easy transition and offsets the countless extended months other trainees take… heard some people still werent signed off from the first 3 classes they took and those classes started around 7 months ago…
Wow...I had an interview with MQ and was pretty set on going there but got the offer from QX first; I'm happy with the route I've taken but crazy to think that there could've been a small possibility to have ended up at American in just a few months.....
DispatcherSam
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There’s always the chance of moving to the 6th floor.
Mesa777
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It’s almost CRIMINAL for QX to pay such ridiculous slave wages in one of the most expensive areas in the United States! And this is with so called union representation!!
And the issue is that is a tough system to learn as it is all command line driven. If you came from another carrier that used a different system such as Sabre Dispatch Monitor, the analogy I like to us is it like going from Windows to DOS. That being said, FlightKeys will be a much easier system to learn when it is fully implemented, but I don't see full implementation at AA until at least 2024 given the challenges of getting a bunch of people trained on the new system, as was learned during the first attempted rollout.
gopherdx
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B6 will be transitioning from Sabre FPM to FlightKeys in the Fall of 2023. Hopefully everything is ironed out by then.