Increased activity prompts Boeing 717 push

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source-IFATCA DAILY NEWS 1.10.2004


Increased activity prompts Boeing 717 push

Boeing remains optimistic about the potential of the Boeing 717 and is eyeing up to 60 sales for the model over the next two years as it ramps up its marketing presence in Europe. The Boeing 717 has been in service for just under five years and Boeing currently has 167 firm orders for the type, enough to fuel the production lines for “two or three years,” according to Boeing 717 programme manager Patrick McKenna.

Speaking at the European Regions Airline Association’s (ERA) general assembly, the Boeing VP and general manager for the 717 programme said: “There is certainly a lot of activity in the market for 100-seaters and there certainly hasn’t been this much activity for a long time.” He adds: “We are talking to half a dozen customers and could bring in 25-30 sales from two or three customers in the next couple of months and a similar number, maybe more, next year.”
McKenna explains that this year’s potential deals are formed from “a couple” of 10 to 15-strong aircraft deals, “a couple” of two to three aircraft deals and “a couple” of larger orders in line for next year.

He says that Boeing is “talking to Germanwings about putting a couple of aircraft in there” and notes that this could boost the type’s European popularity, in turn boosting the manufacturer’s support presence. The manufacturer is on the verge of launching two new marketing campaigns in the region.
“If we’re successful in getting a couple of aircraft in there, the aircraft will sell itself. If we get them booked you can catch the interest of other operators,” says McKenna. Responding to the competitive efforts of both Bombardier and Embraer with the C Series and Embraer 195 respectively McKenna says: “You have to keep in mind that these are aircraft on paper founded on hopes and wishes, but we are here and have had the aircraft out there for five years.”
But he adds the new programmes reinforces the global potential of the 100-seat market, which Boeing places at around 1,000 aircraft over the next ten years and a further 2,500 in the following ten.
 
Cool plane is right, funny thing is if the sales of the 717 pick up, my life will turn to a living hell....
 
He's a simulator training scheduler.

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It sounds like they are trying to convince people that they are still alive.....

Sounds to me like boeing is digging their own grave, first the A320 filled all the LCC's, now the Embraer 170 has a good shot at it. Unless they can sell some of the 717's to LCC's and make that big, the 7E7 is going to kill them. I think airbus beat them to the punch. My predicition, the A380 will kill Boeing. I think the 7E7 will be about as popular as the 717 has been.
 
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It sounds like they are trying to convince people that they are still alive.....

Sounds to me like boeing is digging their own grave, first the A320 filled all the LCC's, now the Embraer 170 has a good shot at it. Unless they can sell some of the 717's to LCC's and make that big, the 7E7 is going to kill them. I think airbus beat them to the punch. My predicition, the A380 will kill Boeing. I think the 7E7 will be about as popular as the 717 has been.

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I beg to differ. I think that the DC-9 line has a proven trackrecord so why not take advantage of that.

Also the amount of fuel savings the 7E7 will offer is truly incredible. Do you think an airline will want a gas guzzler at with oil at $54 a barrel?

I just dont see why there is a need for more capacity when we still have 747's in the desert.
 
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It sounds like they are trying to convince people that they are still alive.....

Sounds to me like boeing is digging their own grave, first the A320 filled all the LCC's, now the Embraer 170 has a good shot at it. Unless they can sell some of the 717's to LCC's and make that big, the 7E7 is going to kill them. I think airbus beat them to the punch. My predicition, the A380 will kill Boeing. I think the 7E7 will be about as popular as the 717 has been.

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Boeing is still alive, sheesh, last I checked, Boeing had a back order on the 737 for about 900 airplanes alone.


Boeing delivered 22 airliners in September 2004
1 717, 16 737s
1 757, 1 767s, 3 777s
Boeing delivered 218 through first nine months of 2004, and expects to deliver 285 for the year.

Airbus delivered 26 airliners in September 2004
2 A300s
20 A319/A320/A321s
4 A330s
Airbus delivered 224 aircraft in the first nine
months of 2004 (vv 199 a year before)
 
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He's a simulator training scheduler.

(am I right, am I right?
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Doug, even better than that, I am waiting for the bean counters to ask me to flow out 200 crews and they have to be done tomorrow!
 
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It sounds like they are trying to convince people that they are still alive.....

Sounds to me like boeing is digging their own grave, first the A320 filled all the LCC's, now the Embraer 170 has a good shot at it. Unless they can sell some of the 717's to LCC's and make that big, the 7E7 is going to kill them. I think airbus beat them to the punch. My predicition, the A380 will kill Boeing. I think the 7E7 will be about as popular as the 717 has been.

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First of all the A320 hasn't filled the LCC role that would be the 737 with the A320 playing runner up.

Secondly I think the A380 will do well but I see more airlines at least here in the states buying into the 7E7. Not only for the fuel savings but because it can be used domesically and internationally.
Delta,Continental,American,United can use it incontinentally and for transatlantic flights. I see it quickly replacing the 767 as the most popular plane used for tansatlantic service.
The same can't be said about the A380.No way no how any legacy carrier we will use Delta for this example is gonna fly a A380 from CVG to PHX and then maybe PHX to ATL just doesn't make sense. But they can do it in a 7E7 and even fly from ATL to ZRH.
Am I bias probably but does what I say make sense....yes! More especially with all the 747's parked in the desert and the current lower loads.
Should all that change it will be very interesting to see how the A380 fits in the industry.


Matthew
 
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