HR Interview questions

Blip16

Blip16

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So if you are asked about "checkride failures" would you state intermediate stage checks, or would you just mention the certificate ones if there were any (i did unsat my PPL oral for something really stupid, which is my only official "checkride" failure).

same with ground school? i had one test i took in one of my ground schools which i should not have (because i forgot some required materials), but i was there and didn't know i didn't have the option to not take the test at that time. it was a busy time in college and just forgot the stuff i needed that particular day:banghead: i did poorly enough on this particular test to actually fail the class:banghead::banghead:

or are these the types of things that will haunt a career?
 
In the interviews I've gone to they asked if I had any checkride failures or stage check failures.

I wouldn't worry about the ground school test.
 
Depends on the question. 'Have you failed any portion of your training' vs 'have you failed any checkrides'
 
Be honest, but be scrupulously honest...


Is busting an oral a checkride failure?

I say no, depending on how the question is asked:


Them: "Have you ever had a failure in your training?"

You: "Yes, I failed my PPL oral; here's why and here's why it made me a better pilot, yada, yada..."


Them: "Have you ever failed a checkride?"

You: "No."



JMHO, YMMV!



Kevin
 
SpiraMirabilis said:
In the interviews I've gone to they asked if I had any checkride failures or stage check failures.

I wouldn't worry about the ground school test.
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i edited. i actually failed the ground school due to that one test because i did that poorly on it. it was an easy test if you had the required materials.

i do have quite a few stage check failures, but they never specified in the last interview i just did, so i volunteered them and i think i dug a hole. i didn't view stage checks importantly enough, even though I passed all the really important rides first times (Commercial, CFI, CFII, MEI)
 
staplegun said:
Be honest, but be scrupulously honest...


Is busting an oral a checkride failure?

I say no, depending on how the question is asked:


Them: "Have you ever had a failure in your training?"

You: "Yes, I failed my PPL oral; here's why and here's why it made me a better pilot, yada, yada..."


Them: "Have you ever failed a checkride?"

You: "No."



JMHO, YMMV!



Kevin
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ok, so you tell the truth, but don't volunteer all information like you are saying. my records are private, so i don't think they would have a way to find them out unless i released permission?

i was just being honest, but maybe too honest. i tried to explain myself but i don't think they cared
 
Failing the oral is a failed check ride. If they ask, explain. Anything not FAA recognized (stage checks, ground school) is not a check ride. Don't bring it up unless they get real specific. A failed stage check is just the same as a bad flight lesson in part 61. Would you bring up that day you had trouble with eights on pylons during your commercial if they ask you about failed check rides? No.
 
I screwed up a stage check once cause of an interesting approach I learned a lot from. I hear a lot of other people screw up the Tri-city (Ohio) VOR approach into runway 17 on their stage checks.

Anyway, the instructor doing the stage check only counted it as an "incomplete" and because of that, I have no failed stage checks or check rides :nana2:
 
Maurus said:
I screwed up a stage check once cause of an interesting approach I learned a lot from. I hear a lot of other people screw up the Tri-city (Ohio) VOR approach into runway 17 on their stage checks.

Anyway, the instructor doing the stage check only counted it as an "incomplete" and because of that, I have no failed stage checks or check rides :nana2:
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Thats great, Im sure the thread starter was wondering if you have any failed stage checks on your record.:nana2:
 
Be honest but don't divulge any info you don't need to. Answer their questions as vague as possible, especially if its one of the negatives that you are bringing to the table. If they want more let them ask. Dont open up Pandora's box.

Do you know what the weight of the Seminole is? Of Course.

Have you failed a checkride? Nope, no actual check rides.

Do you have the time? Yes.



You get the drift.

Leave your shovel at home...
 
I wouldn't admit to anything that the company can't find out about. Can companies find out if you failed a stage check somewhere along the way?
 
BuickCFI said:
that is what i am wondering
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I doubt they even care to be honest.

You have to fill out the PRIA (pilot records improvement act, I think) papers and send away for your FAA records when you get a job at a company. You can do this before you even go interview so you can see if there is anything on there that you don't know about or that shouldn't be on there. You can also do this with your driving record. Thats what I did just to be sure nothing was on there that I wasn't prepared to talk about.

But to answer your original question. I really don't think a 141 stage check is considered a check ride. Did you fill out an 8710? If the answer is no then it isn't a check ride. Does the FAA have any record of you failing your stage checks? I think your school just keeps that info right? I would just not say anything about your stage checks and if it comes back (highly doubtful) just say that you didn't think that they were considered check rides.

If there is some different special way that 141 programs do check rides then forgive me because I was part 61 all the way. Yet another reason I like Part 61 training better. A "Failed Stage Check" is the same as "Hey dude you need more work on your soft field landings before I sign you off. Come in this weekend and we will make em pretty then Ill sign you off."
 
The only time that a 141 stagecheck would be considered a checkride is if your school has self-examining authority which is to say after your last stage check they give you your pilot certificate.
 
SpiraMirabilis said:
The only time that a 141 stagecheck would be considered a checkride is if your school has self-examining authority which is to say after your last stage check they give you your pilot certificate.
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like my school. so only end of TCO stages count as checkrides. will keep that in mind for next time. i do have a failed checkride then, but for something really stupid, totally explainable and for a PPL license
 
ilove747s said:
Hhhmmm.... What exactly is a stage check? :panic:
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An example would be if you flew with another cfi to check if you're ok to solo. Think of it as a phase of training. You'll see em more in 141 training.
A checkride is when you're doing the oral or flight portion of the test to get a certificate or rating.

Checkrides you take with the FAA or thier designated examiners require you to fill out forms before you do the check that become part of your PRIA records, so they will show if you fail a ride. Some 141 schools out there have it setup where their checkride is a flight lession and if you blow it, it just goes down as a retake of the lession and not a failed ride, yet if you pass it counts as a passed checkride.


As for answering the dreaded have you ever failed question, if you do blow a ride, which is common, so long as you pass it on the next try, don't sweat it much. Just own your mistake, and tell em what you learned.
I've blown 3 rides myself and I can still find work.

Never try to pass the buck and blame someone else, even if you feel it was unfair. I think part of the reason they ask you this in interviews is to see if you can demonstrate you are responsible for your own actions, and how you overcome adversity.
 
A stage check is a specific part of 141 training syllabus. A stage check is not flying with the chief instructor so he sees how you fly unless he is also performing the actual stage check as outlined in your syllabus. Generally speaking when they ask if you have any failed checkrides of stage checks what they want to know is if you had a failed stage check where you would have gotten your pilot certificate handed to you at the end had you passed and comes into play mainly from people who went to schools like Buick where thats all you had -- a stage check and you're done. What they really want to know is how many checkrides youve busted but what about people who havent taken any "check rides" per se? Hence that question. Thats my impression anyway.
 
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