Hourly vs. Block Rates?

CRJDriver

CRJDriver

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I feel kinda stupid asking this questions, but can someone explain to me the difference between hourly and block rates? Also, is $108/hr (wet) for a 1998 Cessna 172S pretty reasonable? What about a 1965 Cessna 172G for $88/hr?

Thanks!
 
UND_Flyer said:
I feel kinda stupid asking this questions, but can someone explain to me the difference between hourly and block rates? Also, is $108/hr (wet) for a 1998 Cessna 172S pretty reasonable? What about a 1965 Cessna 172G for $88/hr?
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Generally speaking, a hourly rate is the flat out rate charged for the rental of a specific aircraft for one hour. While a block rate, is a special “discounted” rate that a FBO will charge because you have placed and kept a minimum predetermined number of dollars on your account with the company (usually from $50-$500).:)


As far as the aircraft rental goes, it depends on where you live. I live in LA an you can rent a 2003 172SP for $100/hr wet (includes fuel). The prices seem just a tad bit high to me.
 
here in PA it's about 120 an hour for a 2004 172 sp with a gps with moving map, and some other stuff. the prices you mentioned seem on par with what is around here... and actually lower because we are still paying a "fuel surcharge" on top of the rental price.
 
AlexF said:
Generally speaking, a hourly rate is the flat out rate charged for the rental of a specific aircraft for one hour. While a block rate, is a special “discounted” rate that a FBO will charge because you have placed and kept a minimum predetermined number of dollars on your account with the company (usually from $50-$500).:)


As far as the aircraft rental goes, it depends on where you live. I live in LA an you can rent a 2003 172SP for $100/hr wet (includes fuel). The prices seem just a tad bit high to me.
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Where are you renting from in LA?
 
UND_Flyer said:
I feel kinda stupid asking this questions, but can someone explain to me the difference between hourly and block rates? Also, is $108/hr (wet) for a 1998 Cessna 172S pretty reasonable? What about a 1965 Cessna 172G for $88/hr?

Thanks!
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Here in MSP (KFCM) I am paying $115 (wet) for a 2000 172sp /g.
 
$109 for a 97 SP here. Thats reasonable for here. I can rent a Cirrus for 200 though!

Also I am paying $86 for a '80 skyhawk!

INstruction is fairly cheap- about $30 an hour
 
UND_Flyer said:
I feel kinda stupid asking this questions, but can someone explain to me the difference between hourly and block rates? Also, is $108/hr (wet) for a 1998 Cessna 172S pretty reasonable? What about a 1965 Cessna 172G for $88/hr?

Thanks!
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Hey did you find a '98 172 in the GFK area??? Or is that at KBOI?

$88 is a bit steep I think. Should be more like $72-76, if it's in the GFK area.
 
No, not in GFK! I'll be back home in Boise, ID for the holidays, planning on taking some family members up flying.
 
AlexF said:
As far as the aircraft rental goes, it depends on where you live. I live in LA an you can rent a 2003 172SP for $100/hr wet (includes fuel). The prices seem just a tad bit high to me.
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Let's see - 100LL is running $3.79/Gallon at The Whiteman Airport. At 9.5 gallons per hour, that plane is burning $36/hour. If you figure $30/hour for MX, $20/hour for insurance and who-knows-what for the loan payment/ $100/hr for a 2003 172SP isn't so bad!! ;)
 
JaceTheAce said:
Hey did you find a '98 172 in the GFK area??? Or is that at KBOI?

$88 is a bit steep I think. Should be more like $72-76, if it's in the GFK area.
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flight support used to have an arrow for 108(I think) dry and no in flight checkout once you've done your 321 or whatever stage (commercial)
it's of course an old UND arrow, but a nice airplane.
 
mtsu_av8er said:
Let's see - 100LL is running $3.79/Gallon at The Whiteman Airport. At 9.5 gallons per hour, that plane is burning $36/hour. If you figure $30/hour for MX, $20/hour for insurance and who-knows-what for the loan payment/ $100/hr for a 2003 172SP isn't so bad!! ;)
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Agreed.
 
Philip said:
flight support used to have an arrow for 108(I think) dry and no in flight checkout once you've done your 321 or whatever stage (commercial)
it's of course an old UND arrow, but a nice airplane.
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Yeah it's free checkout...well, all you do is take the test. That's what I did for the N108ND...the 1990 Piper Cadet. It's actually a really nice plane. Engine runs really smooth. Smoother than our 2003-2005 Piper Warriors.
 
JaceTheAce said:
Yeah it's free checkout...well, all you do is take the test. That's what I did for the N108ND...the 1990 Piper Cadet. It's actually a really nice plane. Engine runs really smooth. Smoother than our 2003-2005 Piper Warriors.
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that's a new one then.

on the arrow I had to take the test and I seem to remember a brief oral with one of their CFI's but it's been awhile.

One of my instructors took that airplane home for the holidays and had the engine seize in IMC somewhere on the way to missouri. They're lucky te thing is still in tact :)

Never flew the cadet, they were on their way out and I was urged to just hop in the warr for 112, I assume they fly the same?
 
MarkE said:
Where are you renting from in LA?
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Technically, It's $105/hr wet (a whole five bucks difference). Anyway, I rent out of South Bay Aviation at Torrance (KTOA) airport, the prices aren't half bad.
 
I pay about 94 an hour for a 78 172 with no GPS. It's 99 for a 85 with GPS.

And i just checked the site, and maybe im blind, but it seems they added a fee for post and pre flight instruction which usually only consists of 5-10 minutes.

All in all, an hour worth of flying with instruction and such, around 150-170 and this is in SoCal at Chino Airport.
 
Philip said:
that's a new one then.

on the arrow I had to take the test and I seem to remember a brief oral with one of their CFI's but it's been awhile.

One of my instructors took that airplane home for the holidays and had the engine seize in IMC somewhere on the way to missouri. They're lucky te thing is still in tact :)

Never flew the cadet, they were on their way out and I was urged to just hop in the warr for 112, I assume they fly the same?
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Yeah flies exactly the same as the Warrior. Same V-speeds, handling characteristics, etc. For a 160HP 1990 Piper Cadet with a KLN89 GPS for $65 dry, you can't beat that. Add in fuel costs and it ends up being approx $77 an hour (from my experience). Last summer they just changed their prices from $55 to $65 dry... $55 woulda been so cheap!
 
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