Honda jet crash KFFZ, 5 fatal

[T/O w/FSII]

I know nothing about these things, but is this similar to the Phenom 100s that were skidding off the pavement rather regularly a few years ago? They seem to have fixed that (? at least I haven't heard of any more)

It seems like the original 100 (pre ground spoilers) had some issues because of the electronic breaking system and pilot training on how to use it (don’t let go, let them work)

The addition of ground spoilers also helped.

It seems the Honda jet has a physics problem due to the size and tire type.


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[Boris Badenov]

It seems the Honda jet has a physics problem due to the size and tire type.

So weird. Wasn't the gestation on the thing like 25 years? And you'd think Honda might know a thing or two about tires...

 

[Roger Roger]

So weird. Wasn't the gestation on the thing like 25 years? And you'd think Honda might know a thing or two about tires...

Maybe it’ll be better on the longer, heavier version?

 

[Roger Roger]

So weird. Wasn't the gestation on the thing like 25 years? And you'd think Honda might know a thing or two about tires...

Also, I remember going to Oshkosh and seeing the new hotness hondajet….in 2002.

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

Single pilot Corpie jet gonna single pilot Corpie?

 

[Boris Badenov]

Maybe it’ll be better on the longer, heavier version?

"Not to worry, we'll give you 20 cents on the dollar if you trade up to the one that actually works. At list price, of course."

 

[knot4u]

Single pilot Corpie jet gonna single pilot Corpie?

If you could afford it you'd have your own jet and fly it single pilot, again, if you could afford it. But you can't so you don't and you crap on those that do. Your aviation spectrum is myopic enough that it reminds me of Todd (RIP or whatever). You only know what you know and what you don't know is actually the majority of aviation. But I like you, keep fighting whatever fight you're fighting. Keep going with the corpie thing, maybe someday it'll hit and you'll be famous.

 

[Boris Badenov]

Keep going with the corpie thing, maybe someday it'll hit and you'll be famous.

Spoiler: It didn't, and he wasn't.

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

If you could afford it you'd have your own jet and fly it single pilot, again, if you could afford it. But you can't so you don't and you crap on those that do. Your aviation spectrum is myopic enough that it reminds me of Todd (RIP or whatever). You only know what you know and what you don't know is actually the majority of aviation. But I like you, keep fighting whatever fight you're fighting. Keep going with the corpie thing, maybe someday it'll hit and you'll be famous.

Nah. If I was rich enough to have and operate my own jet, I most likely wouldn’t cheapen out on an extra pair of eyes sitting next to me. I am not for any corporate or private jet as a single pilot operation operating but that’s just me. Of course there’s plenty of 91 private owners and 135 bizjets operating like that. To each their own.

I don’t get the pile on for Todd. He was actually a cool person.

 

[knot4u]

Nah. If I was rich enough to have and operate my own jet, I most likely wouldn’t cheapen out on an extra pair of eyes sitting next to me. I am not for any corporate or private jet as a single pilot operation operating but that’s just me. Of course there’s plenty of 91 private owners and 135 bizjets operating like that. To each their own.

I don’t get the pile on for Todd. He was actually a cool person.

I also liked Todd, I just didn't agree with him on many things. He thought aerobatics were dangerous, GA flying was dangerous, air racing was dangerous (pylon air racing is dangerous) and that anyone without an ATP had no business filing IFR and he wanted all of those folks to "pay their fair share". In the meantime he'd bought a C421 and was struggling to get it flying due to the massive amount of money required, did he ever get that airplane flying and does he fly it single pilot?