Have you ever heard about Utah Valley University?

junhyuk

junhyuk

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First of all I'm living in South Korea and its not that in danger as you see in CNN News.

I had my Junior high school in Phoenix, Arizona as an exchange students. And I took GED few months ago.
And I started looking for an University in United states. My Korean sponser and my high school counselor in AZ said its a great school but I can't get a lot of information online. So I want to ask how's the UVU's offline class??
Are they familiar with Foreign students?
Can I take MEL license or more? (Cause company in Korea requires flight time 500 or 300 or more)
How's the school life going on?

And also if you know about University of North Dakota(aka UND) please tell me some more :)

I really need a lot of help. THX for reading :)
 
I don't know a whole lot about UVU, but I fly with several people who have gone there and they are very complimentary of the place. I've been there once and was impressed with both their facilities and planes. I'm sure it's a good choice. I'm also pretty sure you'll get at least as far as a CFI if you do the whole program.

As far as life there...well, it's in Provo. If you like the outdoors, you'll do fine, but if you're looking for nightlife, don't expect to find much.

I went to UND. It's a great school with lots of asain students, but it has its own downsides. What questions do you have about it?
 
junhyuk said:
First of all I'm living in South Korea and its not that in danger as you see in CNN News.

I had my Junior high school in Phoenix, Arizona as an exchange students. And I took GED few months ago.
And I started looking for an University in United states. My Korean sponser and my high school counselor in AZ said its a great school but I can't get a lot of information online. So I want to ask how's the UVU's offline class??
Are they familiar with Foreign students?
Can I take MEL license or more? (Cause company in Korea requires flight time 500 or 300 or more)
How's the school life going on?

And also if you know about University of North Dakota(aka UND) please tell me some more :)

I really need a lot of help. THX for reading :)
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Argh!! I'll say this one more time... Trade Schools are not Universities, nor vice versa.
I'm not picking on trade schools. I deeply admire trade schools. I deeply admire good tradesfolk; I myself am one. But...........
A university or college should teach you something outside a particular trade. It should teach you how to read, write, and think clearly. It should teach you how to observe, perceive, and reason well. It should teach you how to ask good questions about whatever it is that you happen to be pondering at any given time. It should give you a big tool box replete with a variety of implements to bring to any job site, hobby club, board room, solitary night in the woods, post-apocalypse nightmare scenario, town meeting, or family picnic you might visit.
A trade school should instruct you how to perform a particular trade. It should inculcate technique, process, and best practices.
Go to college... a real one. Then go to flight school. Or vice versa. Or contemporaneously*. But don't confuse flight school with a proper undergraduate education. *(Probably a bad idea since most undergrad programs these days are tantamount to a high school education 30 or 40 years ago... therefore, going to college first will give you the physics you'll need to make flight school easy).
If you want further clarification... see College vs. Law School.
 
Crop Duster said:
Argh!! I'll say this one more time... Trade Schools are not Universities, nor vice versa.
I'm not picking on trade schools. I deeply admire trade schools. I deeply admire good tradesfolk; I myself am one. But...........
A university or college should teach you something outside a particular trade. It should teach you how to read, write, and think clearly. It should teach you how to observe, perceive, and reason well. It should teach you how to ask good questions about whatever it is that you happen to be pondering at any given time. It should give you a big tool box replete with a variety of implements to bring to any job site, hobby club, board room, solitary night in the woods, post-apocalypse nightmare scenario, town meeting, or family picnic you might visit.
A trade school should instruct you how to perform a particular trade. It should inculcate technique, process, and best practices.
Go to college... a real one. Then go to flight school. Or vice versa. Or contemporaneously*. But don't confuse flight school with a proper undergraduate education. *(Probably a bad idea since most undergrad programs these days are tantamount to a high school education 30 or 40 years ago... therefore, going to college first will give you the physics you'll need to make flight school easy).
If you want further clarification... see College vs. Law School.
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I'm not sure what you're getting at. I'm not sure how the other university aviation programs work, but I have a bachelor degree in aviation from a brick and mortar university.

Outside of the aviation focus, I took:

Two English Classes
Two Math Classes
Two History Classes
Two Economic Classes
Speach and Public Speaking
Sociology
Two Science Classes (Astronomy and Physical World)
General Physical Education
Jazz History
4 years of music classes (I was in band)
Golf
Racketball


I nearly had a general ed degree without the aviation focus. That's a pretty well rounded education to me.
 
Crop Duster said:
Argh!! I'll say this one more time... Trade Schools are not Universities, nor vice versa.
I'm not picking on trade schools. I deeply admire trade schools. I deeply admire good tradesfolk; I myself am one. But...........
A university or college should teach you something outside a particular trade. It should teach you how to read, write, and think clearly. It should teach you how to observe, perceive, and reason well. It should teach you how to ask good questions about whatever it is that you happen to be pondering at any given time. It should give you a big tool box replete with a variety of implements to bring to any job site, hobby club, board room, solitary night in the woods, post-apocalypse nightmare scenario, town meeting, or family picnic you might visit.
A trade school should instruct you how to perform a particular trade. It should inculcate technique, process, and best practices.
Go to college... a real one. Then go to flight school. Or vice versa. Or contemporaneously*. But don't confuse flight school with a proper undergraduate education. *(Probably a bad idea since most undergrad programs these days are tantamount to a high school education 30 or 40 years ago... therefore, going to college first will give you the physics you'll need to make flight school easy).
If you want further clarification... see College vs. Law School.
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What the hell are you going on about? UVU is not a trade school.
 
KLB said:
I nearly had a general ed degree without the aviation focus. That's a pretty well rounded education to me.
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Not to hijack the thread, but is that correct? Isn't a four year degree typically four classes per semester for eight semesters? That would be 32 classes, but you listed around 14, or 22 if you count the PE and band classes. Doesn't that leave you at least a year to 2.5 years shy?
 
Plata said:
Not to hijack the thread, but is that correct? Isn't a four year degree typically four classes per semester for eight semesters? That would be 32 classes, but you listed around 14, or 22 if you count the PE and band classes. Doesn't that leave you at least a year to 2.5 years shy?
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He left out all the flight classes.
 
I hear good things about both programs and have flown with great pilots who have been to both schools. I think either one would provide a great education in aviation and both have large, established aviation departments. I'm sure both can provide you with your multi engine ratings as well as your flight instructor ratings if you need them.

I have been to both Provo and Grand Forks many times. I did NOT attend either university. Provo will have a more quiet night life but I'm sure both schools have plenty of extra curricular activities for students. If you like the outdoors, Provo is only minutes from huge mountains and there is a lot that can be done there. Provo does get cold in the winter but NOT remotely as cold as winters in North Dakota. Dakota winters will almost always be very, very cold. Grand Forks, North Dakota is in the flat lands but very beautiful during the warmer months.
 
One of the best coworkers I ever had went to uvu. I don't know how much they had to do with it but in addition to being great to work with he flew a very good airplane. Totally anecdotal but there ya go.
 
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