Grand Canyon area TFR

averettpilot said:
http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_4_8112.html

Checking the TFR's this morning and saw this. Don't have time to really look for what's going on, but thought I'd see if anyone might know what happened at the west rim. Hope nothing serious.
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Clicked the link....

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Reason for NOTAM :TO PROVIDE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR ACCIDENT INVESTIGATION
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That's what it states. Probably in regards to the 207 accident from another thread.
 
Yeah, saw it was for an accident investigation, just couldn't figure out who or what. Hope everyone is ok.

Thanks for the link.
 
Pilot was moving the bird from one place to another parking area. Don't know whether he caught a skid in a low hover while in sideward flight or not. But unlike U.S. helicopters, Eurocopters such as the AStar hover right skid low due to translating tendency, versus left skid low. One has to be very conscientious of AGL when sliding right (pilots side), as that skid is hanging lower than the left side. Normal hover height when hover taxiing forward is about 2 to 3 AGL, which just has to be bumped a bit higher to about 5 feet for sideward or rearward hovering. If you catch a skid while hovering forward, no biggie. Do the same while sideward, and you introduce a fulcrum point about which the helo can dynamically roll over if there is enough sideward speed.
 
ahw01 said:
http://www.ntsb.gov/aviationquery/brief.aspx?ev_id=20140518X03315&key=1

Leave the helicopter while it is running?!
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Worse, for an AStar, one would have to leave it at FLIGHT, as opposed to IDLE, and have the collective unlocked, for it to get airborne. I've seen.....though I don't recommend it.......pilots exiting a bird while it's at IDLE; as at my operation we even have single pilot hot refueling procedures, but there's specific authorization required to perform this.
 
Understood, bad things even happen when pilots stop for lunch, just a shame he couldn't stay outside the arc...
 
I saw a pilot do this while I was in the Army; stepped out to smoke...we all just stood there watched his Kiowa roll over.

MikeD said:
Worse, for an AStar, one would have to leave it at FLIGHT, as opposed to IDLE, and have the collective unlocked, for it to get airborne. I've seen.....though I don't recommend it.......pilots exiting a bird while it's at IDLE; as at my operation we even have single pilot hot refueling procedures, but there's specific authorization required to perform this.
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Please elaborate......my boss does this all the time.....

Hawks said:
First thought when you stated "Re-po" was that horrible show where they re-po various aircraft.
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Sorry, wasn't thinking of that!
 
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