Goodyear blimps to be replaced by...

upup89

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Zeppelins? Kind of cool I guess.

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Most present-day airships are blimps like the current Goodyear fleet. A blimp, as distinct from other types of dirigible airship, has no structure supporting the fabric envelope which holds its lifting gas. Rather, the envelope maintains its shape by being kept inflated at a slightly higher pressure than the air outside it, much like a novelty balloon. In the case of a blimp the extra pressure is furnished no matter what altitude or temperature the ship may be at (and thus, no matter what volume the helium lifting gas may care to take up) by blowing air into "ballonets" inside the envelope.
Blimps have the advantage of being simple, but the naturally squashy nature of their envelopes presents problems in mounting propulsion and control surfaces away from the main gondola. Beyond a certain size, too, it becomes difficult to maintain envelope shape by pressurisation.
For this reason the vast airships of the pre-WWII era were rigid ships, with fabric gas cells contained inside a huge, lightweight shell. Control surfaces and propellers were attached outside the rigid outer structure: so were engines and crew/passenger accommodation originally, but later designs saw everything possible moved inside the hull for better streamlining and easier access.
The death knell of the great rigids was sounded by the Hindenburg disaster of 1937 (although her equally-mighty sister ship Graf Zeppelin II continued in limited operation until 1940). It's widely believed that the Hindenburg catastrophe would not have occurred had the great ship been filled with helium – as she was designed to be – rather than explosive hydrogen; but the United States, only source of bulk helium at the time, was understandably reluctant to supply Nazi Germany.
Prior to the Hindenburg tragedy, however, the US had made its own experiments with big rigid ships: most famously with the US Navy's flying aircraft-carriers, the Akron and Macon. Each of these was effectively a 1930s-style Captain Scarlet Cloudbase, able to carry a force of biplane fighters in an internal hangar and launch and recover them in mid-air. (The Curtiss Sparrowhawk airship fighters operated above the Pacific without wheels or floats fitted, relying entirely on their "Skyhook" recovery gear). Both vessels were built in the States under a joint venture in which the German Zeppelin company, originally founded at the end of the 19th century by the old Graf von Zeppelin himself, assisted America's Goodyear with the necessary knowhow.
That joint venture came under strain with the outbreak of WWII, and the Goodyear-Zeppelin corporation was formally dissolved in 1940. The Zeppelin Company of Germany did not long survive it.
The Akron and Macon were both destroyed in storms at sea (in 1933 and 1935 respectively), ending the US experiment with rigid airships. However the US Navy continued to operate blimps with enthusiasm, an effort in which Goodyear continued to play a major part following the breakoff of relations with the Zeppelin Company, and a large US blimp fleet served in WWII and beyond into the early Cold War.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/04/goodyear_zeppelins_return_at_last/
 
First off, I'm not really shocked about this one. The GZ-20's are a really, really old design and basically Goodyear had to build all the parts (even small hardware) because the original manufactures aren't around these days. I will say, $21 million a piece is a big price tag to replace 3 non-rigid's.


In related news, no one, outside the pilot community, will ever call them anything but blimps.

No pilot who knows anything would ever call them a blimp. They're all airships, of different varieties.

Certainly.

Still want to get an airship rating, still have no idea how to go about that.

Get hired by a company or have a boat load of cash to spend. It's a blast flying an airship, for sure.
 
That's what I thought but somebody told me he was working his way toward Solberg. I flew over there no mooring truck.

Yeah, they'll be at Lakehurst or going to Florida. Doubt they would go to Lakehurst, especially with the mast truck setup they are running (too easy to get stuck at Solberg). They aren't too fond of people taking a look at the thing for some reason, from what I've heard.
 
The Blimpy was grumpy announced himself only once. Probably saw me struggling with deadsticking :)
 
Have you guys seen the super massive one that is being designed? I don't remember the company name but it is supposed to lift over 1 million pounds.
 
Zeppelins have been making a comeback.

http://www.airshipventures.com

(Incidentally, I once passed in front of the Eureka in the pattern at OAK. To which my CFI exclaimed "Dude! We just cut off a Zeppelin. Cool!":smoke:)

I guess you can call it a comeback. They've built 4 in 15 years, one has been totaled. Cool, but super, super expensive.

Have you guys seen the super massive one that is being designed? I don't remember the company name but it is supposed to lift over 1 million pounds.

Not a zeppelin, but rather a hybrid airship. For a host of reasons, it's a vaporware product, IMO, without sizable funding behind them (I mean 10's of billions of dollars).
 
No pilot who knows anything would ever call them a blimp. They're all airships, of different varieties.

That's right. Us pilots are held to a higher standard. The general public, who for years has gotten away with calling it "The Goodyear Blimp", will continue to do so. But for us, the next time he passes through your pattern please politely refer to him as an "airship", as they take offense to being called a "blimp". Well, perhaps he was ornery because he was only making 10 knots across the ground.
 
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