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notawannabee

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I'm sure someone here will be able to answer this (and thank you in advance for doing so).
I'm told once you complete private pilot training part 61 you cannot get the commercial in the 190 hours part 141. I've also been told "yes you can". Which is it?

Also, have any CFI's here ever trained (or trained a student) for instrument in a twin after a ME rating?
Was the training efficient, or was the workload too much in some cases. Thanks
 
notawannabee said:
I'm sure someone here will be able to answer this (and thank you in advance for doing so).
I'm told once you complete private pilot training part 61 you cannot get the commercial in the 190 hours part 141. I've also been told "yes you can". Which is it?

Also, have any CFI's here ever trained (or trained a student) for instrument in a twin after a ME rating?
Was the training efficient, or was the workload too much in some cases. Thanks
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The 190 assumes you received your Private in 35 hours and your Instrument in 35 hours. Since you can't do either in 35 hours under Part 61, you will have over 190 at the completion of the 141 Commercial Program.

Michael
 
The "190 hour Commercial" is a misrepresentation. The 141 Commercial course is 120 hours, period. They get the 190 from adding 35 for the private and instrument under 141.
 
The commercial course under 141 is 120 hours and does not rquire 50 hours PIC X/C - that is the big difference in 61/141.

You still have to fly 120 hours comercial even if you took 120 hours to do private and 120 hours to do instrument.

The best deal is to do private part 61, then go for combined instrument/comercial (35/120). You will still take longer than 35 hours to do instrument, but you can do it without the 50 PIC X/C if you are enrolled in the 141 instrument and commercial. You basically save having to do 50 hours PIC X/C when you do 141.
 
There's one other item you should know about: transfer credit under part 141.

If you start part 61 training and don't finish it, you will not be able to credit any of your experience to a part 141 school. Say you start taking part 61 instrument training and get 30 hrs of instruction, then decide to switch schools to a part 141 program. You will have to start at lesson #1 and fly the entire course that school offers. If you transfer from one 141 school to another, the max credit you can get is 25% of your part 141 training.

So long as you are aware of this prior to starting, it's no big deal. If you are enrolled in a 141 school and need to transfer, you'll probably be looking at finishing under part 61 (depending on how much of the training you have accomplished).
 
True, however, it is only for the course enrolled in. Such as private or multi, whatever the case may be,

IE if you did X amount of flying at a part 61 school, usually 141 schools offer a part 61 program where you can get most of your flying credited.

I did part 61 elsewhere, then transferred with X amount of hrs and then I enrolled in a part 61 SE Private, which allowed me to credit a good amount of my hours into that program. From there I did 141 Multi/Inst/Comm/SEAD/CFI/II

Sometimes people wonder how those work. Just thought I would share a bit.
 
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