Getting chewed out by a controller

Texguy said:
So alphaone, what did the Delta crew at JFK do to get yelled at?
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The controller told him to taxi to the the ramp without delay. Then I just heard the controller yelling at Delta 175, "Delta 175, why did you stop?! I told you not to stop! You are blocking every airplane on that taxiway!" Delta 175-"We just had to wait figure one thing out for our gate assignment" Controller-"Delta 175, I told you to taxi to the ramp without delay, not stop in the middle of the taxiway without telling me!!!!. Pull forward, contact ramp, GOODNIGHT!" He was pissed too. I mean, any person not even in the flying world would know this controller was pissed off....
 
Fox Xray said:
SteveC - I mostly lurk on these forums but when there is something I can add I will.
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Post as much as you like, we need more people from the ATC world!

I think it would be good for both the newbies and the pros to have a friendly interface with guys in ATC.

Send friends!
 
There's just no excuse for ATC blowing a gasket like that.

You could ask for their initials and phone number but then you gotta play it out by calling the tower and ask for the tower supervisor. That's a pain in the butt when you're supposed to be in crew rest 15 minutes after block in.

Personally, I haven't ran into a situation where I was pissed off enough to do that. Yet.

I goes both ways, though. I remember quite some time ago I flew with a Capt who gave ATC some crap when they asked us to make a certain turnoff on landing. I was working the radio's and the Capt felt the need, after rollout, to make a smart ass remark to ATC. I felt bad about it and the controller didn't shoot back, so that was it.

Sad/funny thing about it. That Capt was on the Professional Standards committee....hahaha.
 
I've actually had a controller call us to apologize for a near miss.

We had a RA (TCAS Resolution Advisory) reacted to it and saw an airplane zip by a few hundred feet in front of us. Once we arrived at the next airport, the gate telephone rings and the captain had the "Oh dear lord, we're HOSED!" expression on his face!
 
Doug Taylor said:
I've actually had a controller call us to apologize for a near miss.

We had a RA (TCAS Resolution Advisory) reacted to it and saw an airplane zip by a few hundred feet in front of us. Once we arrived at the next airport, the gate telephone rings and the captain had the "Oh dear lord, we're HOSED!" expression on his face!
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Where was this Doug?
 
All of my flights originate and terminate at a Class Bravo airport in the ADIZ, so I've had some "moments" with the controllers. Nothing too serious too often, but they'll make for some interesting reading if I ever write a book.

Mike
 
On a positive note; the tower phoned our dispatch and asked me to give them a call concering a near miss on the runway. While I was just in the flair for landing, the GA aircraft ahead of us missed the turn and did a 180. Fortunate for both of us, I was able to exit at the first turn off and did so. At first I thought I would get a a$$ chewing for not going around. It was a thank you for being so observant and taking the necessary action to avoid an accident. I don't know whether the other plane got the a$$ chewing message or not.
 
The controllers in VRB are always being talked about here. There are a few that are extremely nice, and very helpful. Then there are a few that make you wonder 'what's going on in your life? why are you so angry?'

I guess that the stress of having a large flight school on the field, they tend to think that they're our babysitters?

I've heard some yell at pilots, 'you clearly don't have the training to fly that' and 'I don't have time for this, exit class delta immediately'.

Like I said, others are extremely nice, but there are a few.
 
bLizZuE said:
I've heard some yell at pilots, 'you clearly don't have the training to fly that' and 'I don't have time for this, exit class delta immediately'.
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hehe. I kinda miss that part about teaching at FSI. And in their defense, they're probably right. VRB is a busy airport with the flight schools, but they also have a fair amount of business jets coming and going and they do a pretty good job of separating the two. Personally, I think that I'd feel a little uncomfortable flying into VRB in a Gulfstream on a sunny day with about 15 cherokees buzzing around.
 
Professionalism

DE727UPS said:
There's just no excuse for ATC blowing a gasket like that.
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I agree with you completely on this one! There's absolutely no call for controllers to routinely act like this. Sure, once in a while...slightly acceptable.

As an ATC instructor at my location, I routinely have to remind trainee controllers and rated controllers to show more respect and PROFESSIONALISM! It's almost as if some controllers are just waiting for a chance to chew a pilot out...
 
rickyrhodesii said:
I agree with you completely on this one! There's absolutely no call for controllers to routinely act like this. Sure, once in a while...slightly acceptable.

As an ATC instructor at my location, I routinely have to remind trainee controllers and rated controllers to show more respect and PROFESSIONALISM! It's almost as if some controllers are just waiting for a chance to chew a pilot out...
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-Another off topic post -

Did you previously work at Orlando??

If you did - I recall you being a 'cool' controller....
 
Not me...

Zoid01CMH said:
Did you previously work at Orlando??
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Sorry, it wasn't me! I've only worked in Texas and Oklahoma. One more thing that I’d like to add; I pretty much like to avoid confrontation on the freqs...its recorded people! Why incriminate yourself...? And, much to the dismay of some, controllers and pilots aren't always right.

I like to go home and know that I got a couple of "Good job approach" or "Thanks for the help approach" instead of getting to tell all my controller buddies that I chewed a few pilots out. Sure you get a slight rush, but why?

Here's my take on it. I'm sure you've all heard that a considerable percentage of the FAA controller force it on the verge of retirement. The older guys tend to be the disgruntled ones...tired and worn out. Kind of like the old crusty captain that no one likes to work with. He's just trying to survive another year, preparing for retirement.

Just my two cents...
 
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