Foreign Pilots work in the US

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xiaosang1028

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Hey guys, I had some issues here. As my topic had explained some part of it, I heard some rumors from my instructors and friends who flies for a long time, is it true that "U.S airlines doesn't like to hire Foreign pilots because they think the pilots flew unsafely? Even with those pilots who had already have more than ten years of experiences with 747, 777 and 787?"
I want to work for the major airlines in the State, I do have other choices to fly the big jets earlier; me was thinking about getting enough experiences then will switch back to work the States, but if the rumor is true then I'd rather take step by step to built the hour and get RATP.
 
Autothrust Blue said:
We literally don’t care as long as you have the right to work.
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In both new hire classes I've been in, 'the foreign guy' was the only one who didn't make it through training. Anecdotal, I know. It seems that they will hire them, but if they show any issues with English, or too strong an accent, or can't keep up in training then they're cut. Also anecdotally: even people with a 747 type rating can mysteriously bomb out of CRJ training.
 
thevideographer said:
In both new hire classes I've been in, 'the foreign guy' was the only one who didn't make it through training. Anecdotal, I know. It seems that they will hire them, but if they show any issues with English, or too strong an accent, or can't keep up in training then they're cut. Also anecdotally: even people with a 747 type rating can mysteriously bomb out of CRJ training.
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Oh so if there is any issues with english, they will just get dumped out of the company. Just wondering why the 747 captain won't get hire by the major airlines
 
Are you talking about working overseas or getting your flight training overseas?

At this point in the game I think that any amount of diversity would help your chances of getting hired more than hurt them
 
There are countless threads on other sites about whether overseas nationals can fly for the airlines in the states. There are very few legitimate schemes - Most people seem to misunderstand the visa system.

Must easier to train on EASA/equivalent in the US and then take it home. Pretty tough the other way round.

Alex.
 
thevideographer said:
In both new hire classes I've been in, 'the foreign guy' was the only one who didn't make it through training. Anecdotal, I know. It seems that they will hire them, but if they show any issues with English, or too strong an accent, or can't keep up in training then they're cut. Also anecdotally: even people with a 747 type rating can mysteriously bomb out of CRJ training.
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I work with a lot of foreigners at beachball. No big deal.
 
xiaosang1028 said:
Hey guys, I had some issues here. As my topic had explained some part of it, I heard some rumors from my instructors and friends who flies for a long time, is it true that "U.S airlines doesn't like to hire Foreign pilots because they think the pilots flew unsafely? Even with those pilots who had already have more than ten years of experiences with 747, 777 and 787?"
I want to work for the major airlines in the State, I do have other choices to fly the big jets earlier; me was thinking about getting enough experiences then will switch back to work the States, but if the rumor is true then I'd rather take step by step to built the hour and get RATP.
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It probably depends on where in the world you are coming from also. If it's a country that has a history of good aviation training and safety, and you can get US work rights (airlines aren't getting new hires visas yet), you'll be fine. Of it's a country with a shady aviation history, you'll have a harder time.
 
Rodger Wilco said:
At this point in the game I think that any amount of diversity would help your chances of getting hired more than hurt them
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I'm not convinced by this. As a minority myself, I've only once experienced open discrimination, and it was negative rather than positive. (It was also in writing, clearly and unambiguously). Beyond that occurrence, I cannot say.
 
thevideographer said:
In both new hire classes I've been in, 'the foreign guy' was the only one who didn't make it through training. Anecdotal, I know. It seems that they will hire them, but if they show any issues with English, or too strong an accent, or can't keep up in training then they're cut. Also anecdotally: even people with a 747 type rating can mysteriously bomb out of CRJ training.
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How're guys with a 747 type. Bombing out of CRJ training?
 
I flew with a guy who had plenty of time on a 747 from overseas and he was behind the entire flight.
For one thing the CRJ200 is much more labor intensive than a lot of airlines. more than the 74 I can't say but I would assume so.
CR2 has no auto throttles, a autopilot that works mostly-ish, manual anti-ice, environmental control that needs babysitting...

Also, nobody flying a 747 is going to be up to pace of dong 6 flights a day no longer than an hour each with three aircraft swaps. Things happen somewhat rapidly when you takeoff and are cleared direct IAP, better be ready we start the approach here in 10 minutes.
 
Rodger Wilco said:
I flew with a guy who had plenty of time on a 747 from overseas and he was behind the entire flight.
For one thing the CRJ200 is much more labor intensive than a lot of airlines. more than the 74 I can't say but I would assume so.
CR2 has no auto throttles, a autopilot that works mostly-ish, manual anti-ice, environmental control that needs babysitting...

Also, nobody flying a 747 is going to be up to pace of dong 6 flights a day no longer than an hour each with three aircraft swaps. Things happen somewhat rapidly when you takeoff and are cleared direct IAP, better be ready we start the approach here in 10 minutes.
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Yep. Autothrottles make you lazy VERY quickly. It’s definitely something that you have to constantly work on staying proficient with.
 
Maximillian_Jenius said:
How're guys with a 747 type. Bombing out of CRJ training?
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Because long haul is where you go to completely forget how to fly.
Between our mandatory ap on rnav sids and one or two legs a month, you may "fly" 600 hours a year but of that 600 maybe 2 hours is actually flying.
 
Rodger Wilco said:
Are you talking about working overseas or getting your flight training overseas?

At this point in the game I think that any amount of diversity would help your chances of getting hired more than hurt them
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Actually is trained in the U.S., working overseas then wanted to work back in the States
 
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