Forecast Mountain Waves?

[slushie]

For a WX class.

Where in the world can IU find a weather product that shows forecast and/or reported mountain waves?

 

[ppragman]

For a WX class.

Where in the world can IU find a weather product that shows forecast and/or reported mountain waves?

I've never seen a forecast mountain wave, though I've ridden them out before. Seems to me that that anytime you get winds in excess of about 30kts in the hills you can expect something similar to a mountain wave at very least, and a full on wave at worst.

 

[slushie]

My thoughts exactly. And those of every other pilot/CFI I've asked.
But it's asking for something in a WX product.

 

[ASpilot2be]

I dont know about forecasting them, however I beleive you can see them in satellite images.

 

[Roger, Roger]

Would the Area forecast, or perhaps Airmets cover it? I don't know that Airmets/Sigmets specifically mention the words "mountain wave", but I haven't looked at a lot of them from mountainous areas.

 

[deadringer86]

I'm pretty sure that it's noted in AIRMETs/SIGMETs, but I can't find any proof for you.

 

[bdhill1979]

THey are issued with SIGMETS

Chapter 6 Aviation Weather services

 

[Richman]

For a WX class.

Where in the world can IU find a weather product that shows forecast and/or reported mountain waves?

Heyas Slush,

NWA (now DAL) has a comprehensive mountain wave/turbulence forcasting system that they use that is called a Turbulence Plot. It is highly refined (it uses almost 50 years of historical data) and is extremely accurate.

They do provide forcasting for certain client airlines. I am not sure, but if you were to get one of your proffs to make a phone call or two, you might get some sample data and information on the system.

Richman

 

[TheAlchemist]

I've seen it a few times forecast on the adds website.

http://adds.aviationweather.noaa.gov/

Type in the airport id without the K at the window in the left upper box that says:

Local forecast by
"City, St" or Zip Code

Then scroll down to just below the satellite imagery (on the bottom right corner) and click where it says "forecast discussion".

I've seen it a few times there under aviation.

 

[seagull]

Heyas Slush,

NWA (now DAL) has a comprehensive mountain wave/turbulence forcasting system that they use that is called a Turbulence Plot. It is highly refined (it uses almost 50 years of historical data) and is extremely accurate.

They do provide forcasting for certain client airlines. I am not sure, but if you were to get one of your proffs to make a phone call or two, you might get some sample data and information on the system.

Richman

Northwest has been so far ahead of the entire industry on this for so many years it's incredible. Nobody else does it, period. I hope Delta holds onto this.

 

[Richman]

Northwest has been so far ahead of the entire industry on this for so many years it's incredible. Nobody else does it, period. I hope Delta holds onto this.

Hi Seagull,

From what I understand, they are going to. All the met guys involved are heading to ATL, and the TP system itself is a profit center, so there is no reason to get rid of it.

From the NWA met guys I've had the pleasure of meeting, if they tell you it smells like rain on a sunny day, grab your umbrella.

Richman

 

[Nick]

TP

Northwest has consistently had the least amount of passenger injuries due to turbulence of any of the large US air carriers because of this.

 

[seagull]

Hi Seagull,

From what I understand, they are going to. All the met guys involved are heading to ATL, and the TP system itself is a profit center, so there is no reason to get rid of it.

From the NWA met guys I've had the pleasure of meeting, if they tell you it smells like rain on a sunny day, grab your umbrella.

Richman

Yes, good group, one of the few airlines that has a met dept, actually. FedEx is another one, and there are a small handful of others out there.