FO 26YO 157Hr total 47Min on type Takes Off with gust lock engaged

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"Attempts to take off" the title should read :cool:

"the first officer (26, CPL, 157 hours total, 47 minutes on type) was pilot flying "

That was the FO first flight, recency on type 3 months ago.... (47min total on type)!
That says it all. WTF happened with free clear and correct ? Check list ?
The Captain was no better, no supervision at all missing or dismissing several other check list items.

I do have a question THO :p (Tremendously Perfect question) ....How can you be an FO with 157h total ? Training program perhaps ?
It seems that the Throttles were abused quite a few times before in order to bend the gust lock fork stop. The carrier also didn't bother to spend $ to upgrade the gust interlock system, costly decision now. That reminds me of the FEDEX feeder guy who tried to take off in a 208 with the lock engaged, that one didn't end well, he was in a hurry to attend a birthday party, instead ended up in a cemetery.

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At my regional back in 2007 there was a FO hired on the CRJ with 193 hrs total time. Back then you could get a Comm-ME at 190 hrs total, assuming all Part 141 training.
 
melax said:
"Attempts to take off" the title should read :cool:

"the first officer (26, CPL, 157 hours total, 47 minutes on type) was pilot flying "

That was the FO first flight, recency on type 3 months ago.... (47min total on type)!
That says it all. WTF happened with free clear and correct ? Check list ?
The Captain was no better, no supervision at all missing or dismissing several other check list items.

I do have a question THO :p (Tremendously Perfect question) ....How can you be an FO with 157h total ? Training program perhaps ?
It seems that the Throttles were abused quite a few times before in order to bend the gust lock fork stop. The carrier also didn't bother to spend $ to upgrade the gust interlock system, costly decision now. That reminds me of the FEDEX feeder guy who tried to take off in a 208 with the lock engaged, that one didn't end well, he was in a hurry to attend a birthday party, instead ended up in a cemetery.

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Just a FYI: There is at least one plane that has a two step gust lock system, that a FO can do the flight control check with the gust lock still on.
 
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Just a FYI: There is at least one plane that has a two step gust lock system, that a FO can do the flight control check with the gust lock still on.
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Every single time the electromechanical gust lock control is moved to the full unlock position, the elevator travel must be checked...no fewer than ten seconds...full up stop, full down stop, full up stop.

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They just send them to Australia where they fly DA-20s briefly before they get whisked away into the 737/320 sims. They don’t even get to Cessnas.

kind of reminds me of the Beloit College mindset list they gave us at the college I taught at to help relate to the incoming freshmen class, i.e. “This year’s freshman class doesn’t know Jenny’s number or who Jenny is.”. Or “this years freshmen class have always been able to swipe right to meet up.”

the aviation equivalent would be “Cessna 172s always have had glass panels.”
 
Not the first, won't be the last, happens to experienced crews too unfortunately:

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