Flying over Canada on US to US IFR Plan

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I've got a flight tomorrow that's going to take me over Canada for a couple hundred miles as the most direct route. I don't have my Can-Pass, but I do have an EAPIS account.

If my flight originates in the US and terminates in the US, are there any special previsions I need to make in order to fly IFR enroute over Canadian airspace?
 
None.. you dont need to do anything different then usual. I flew from Detroit to Niagara falls and back and never touched down in Canada so didnt have to do anything different. Just watch out for that user fee bill in the mail from Canada though :P
 
I've done Michigan-Montreal
Michigan-New York
Washington-Alaska
in Bonanzas or Barons

Only the first one required EAPIS...or anything outside of normal.


Edit: You are going to dig what the Canadians are talking a-boot.
 
Don't say "Bonjour" when checking on with a Quebec controller unless you speak French, by the way. :D
 
If you end up talking to Canadian ATC - expect a bill for their "services" from NavCanada within a few months. Don't know what the rate is.

Airlines try to avoid going into Canadian controlled airspace so we dont have to pay that fee. I know several dispatchers at Air Canada that route their trans con flights into US airspace to reduce the charges.
 
F9DXER said:
If you end up talking to Canadian ATC - expect a bill for their "services" from NavCanada within a few months.
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I think that's the key, too. We've flown over Canada (Toronto peninsula) but still been talking to US controllers. Never got a bill. VFR, too (below 12,500!)
 
Bernoulli Fan said:
I think that's the key, too. We've flown over Canada (Toronto peninsula) but still been talking to US controllers. Never got a bill. VFR, too (below 12,500!)
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I might be wrong since I didn't pay the bill when I flew into Toronto City Centre, but you may have just had it tacked on to your bill at Porter.

...which I vaguely remember for us, or I could just be making that up.
 
Just don't say Bonjour anytime thank you ;)
NavCanada has a link on their main page to calculate user fees.

Sorry I'm on my phone I dont have a link...
 
Bernoulli Fan said:
I think that's the key, too. We've flown over Canada (Toronto peninsula) but still been talking to US controllers. Never got a bill. VFR, too (below 12,500!)
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Yup no bill if you stay with US ATC... talk to Toronto center though and thats another story.
 
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