FLL Gouge

Aviator_Bakeek

Aviator_Bakeek

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I am at LZU and have my MEI initial with Black and would like to know if anyone has recently checked with him and could provide a gouge. They (ATP) handed me one but it was from 2008 so I want to make sure its up to date.

Thanks!
 
Aviator_Bakeek said:
I am at LZU and have my MEI initial with Black and would like to know if anyone has recently checked with him and could provide a gouge. They (ATP) handed me one but it was from 2008 so I want to make sure its up to date.

Thanks!
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Sorry, I flew with Pinkston at FLL back in 2008. But good luck!
 
that may be my 2008 gouge :) Make sure to recheck for a cone infront of the airplane before you get in.
 
Now that I think about it, one guy in the CFI class before me at FTY busted during the oral with Black. It was on a question regarding induced drag. Say more than "it's a byproduct of lift."
 
Don't BS him. If you explain steep turns work in dyheadral. He likes that. It's been a while tho. May of 07 I took my initial mei with him, oral was 5 hours and the ride was 2.1. Know ur engine fire in flight checklist, he pulled that on me and I had to compleatly shut it down. Not just point to what to do. , II with mr pinkslip pinkston, I didn't get pinksliped. Good luck!
 
I did my MEI with Black as well back in Dec. 08'

He was a pretty cool guy after he starts talking to you and takes off his sandals and puts his feet on the table . A little intimidating at first, but he will get better. Make sure your IACRA is filed out correctly or your oral will start out pretty rough (as did mine). I went there with my AGI which helped me out tremendously. He asked if I had it and I said yes. He came back and said Great! You just knocked off the FOI portion and the lesson plan. SO, make the effort to get that before you go. We talked mostly about multi-engine aerodynamics, nothing more than what is in the piper seminole supplement. He had me do a weight and balance. We talked about things on the sectional and where we would be doing our training that day. You can expect a lot of breaks during the ground portion. About every 15 minutes he went for more coffee so use that time to look through some stuff if necessary.
He brings you out over the everglades to do most of the air work so keep your eyes open! I had never flown out of there so I asked him to do the radios for me and he was fine with that. So as we are flying out he fell asleep and then woke up about 10 minutes later and told me to teach him how to do turns around a point. We did stalls and single engine maneuvers. After the air work, we went to North Perry airport which is right out side of Lauderdale. We did a couple touch and goes there. We did short field t/o and landings there as well. We then went back to Lauderdale and he asked me if he could take the landing and of course I let him. Overall, the ground portion for me was about an hour and a half. The flight another 1.5

He is a pretty cool guy, knows his stuff obviously.
Good Luck!
 
Joeyd9590 said:
I did my MEI with Black as well back in Dec. 08'

He was a pretty cool guy after he starts talking to you and takes off his sandals and puts his feet on the table . A little intimidating at first, but he will get better. Make sure your IACRA is filed out correctly or your oral will start out pretty rough (as did mine). I went there with my AGI which helped me out tremendously. He asked if I had it and I said yes. He came back and said Great! You just knocked off the FOI portion and the lesson plan. SO, make the effort to get that before you go. We talked mostly about multi-engine aerodynamics, nothing more than what is in the piper seminole supplement. He had me do a weight and balance. We talked about things on the sectional and where we would be doing our training that day. You can expect a lot of breaks during the ground portion. About every 15 minutes he went for more coffee so use that time to look through some stuff if necessary.
He brings you out over the everglades to do most of the air work so keep your eyes open! I had never flown out of there so I asked him to do the radios for me and he was fine with that. So as we are flying out he fell asleep and then woke up about 10 minutes later and told me to teach him how to do turns around a point. We did stalls and single engine maneuvers. After the air work, we went to North Perry airport which is right out side of Lauderdale. We did a couple touch and goes there. We did short field t/o and landings there as well. We then went back to Lauderdale and he asked me if he could take the landing and of course I let him. Overall, the ground portion for me was about an hour and a half. The flight another 1.5

He is a pretty cool guy, knows his stuff obviously.
Good Luck!
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what?! Hour n a half oral? Damn black just got soft! Back in 07 he averaged 5 hours!
 
Black is a knowledgeable pilot and he's a retired FBI agent. You will not BS him. He will eat you for lunch if you try that. (Think Judge Judy as a flight examiner.) He has a reputation for drilling down if you don't know something and try to BS him.

My oral with Black was about an hour and a half. He will try to trip you up to see if you really know your stuff. That is his FBI career checking in! Once he decides you know it, he'll take the pressure off. You will learn something from him during the oral exam so be prepared (and open) to learn. There is nothing you can say that will impress him, so don't even try to go there. He understands you are a student and not yet a career pilot.

Try to find a couple of students that have just taken their checkride with him and pick their brain for every bit on info.

If he has you do a flight plan, then print every bit of paper that DUATS will allow you to print, for that flight plan, and have it with you. Don't forget the weather at departure AND destination. Know your checkpoints along the way. Do not use direct on this flight plan! Black allows DUATS.

On the flight test portion, know your systems and know the plane. He will pick something and expect you know know everything there is to know about that something. Find out from recent students that have taken the checkride what that "something" is on the plane you are flying.

He likes instrument approaches into Boca and North County. Know those approaches. Know your MAP on those approaches because you will use it on one of them.

On the engine out, just expect that it is going to happen each and every time and you will do fine. When it doesn't happen you just got a "free ride".

Good luck with your checkride!

Joe
 
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