Fired!

jhugz

jhugz

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Awesome time to loss my job. Fired today and not given a reason. I know the reason but if used it would have cause some problems for them in the future. I don't know what I'm going to do...pretty bummed. Absolutely speechless.
 
Ouch...!! They didn't give a reason? Well, it'll come up in a future job interview, so you might have to explain yourself.
 
Wow, WTF!? No reason given at all? They didn't indicate that they were letting you go because the company had fallen on hard times or any other BS like that even??? I'm on the job hunt myself, it sucks out here, but You'll find something. Jhugz, where are you located? I'll keep an ear to the ground.
 
Tld said:
Wow, WTF!? No reason given at all? They didn't indicate that they were letting you go because the company had fallen on hard times or any other BS like that even??? I'm on the job hunt myself, it sucks out here, but You'll find something. Jhugz, where are you located? I'll keep an ear to the grindstone.
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fixed the phrase for ya.

OP, Did you push them a little for a reason. Complete BS to not be given a reason. When you file unemployment they are going to want a reason and your next job or two will want to know a reason so I think it is only fair that they give you a reason. At least there is starting to be some movement in the industry so the prospects to find a job are getting better by the day.
 
was it a flying job? if so, you're going to need a reason to explain why you were fired instead of you quitting...

also, did you complete at least 6 months? if not, then i'd say go back and tell them they can't fire you, you quit...that way, you never have to explain why you were fired.

i say 6 months cuz you have to work 6 months somewhere before you can claim unemployment.
 
A lot of companies will try to get you to resign rather than be fired. They will present this as doing you a favor. What they're really concerned about is paying unemployment. Make them fire you. They're going to say "He performed his duties adequately" in any case, to avoid a lawsuit. And other companies are going to know exactly what that means. So the real question is, do you want to have unemployment to fall back on or not.
 
Very sorry to hear it. Luckily the industry may be showing signs of turning around, so hopefully you won't be out of work for too long. Chin up.

subpilot said:
fixed the phrase for ya.
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I believe the phrase is "nose to the grindstone." Not sure how one would keep an ear to a grindstone. ;)
 
Boris Badenov said:
A lot of companies will try to get you to resign rather than be fired. They will present this as doing you a favor. What they're really concerned about is paying unemployment. Make them fire you. They're going to say "He performed his duties adequately" in any case, to avoid a lawsuit. And other companies are going to know exactly what that means. So the real question is, do you want to have unemployment to fall back on or not.
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I wish I'd known how all that worked when it went down at my previous employer. Especially if I'd had the new job lined up when I quit. I would have loved to see them squirm at actually firing me for the reason they did.
 
In most states, resigning or being fired for cause renders one ineligible for unemployment compensation.
 
aloft said:
In most states, resigning or being fired for cause renders one ineligible for unemployment compensation.
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Yes, but if they won't say the cause for jhugz, then he wasn't fire for cause, yes?
 
Roger said:
Yes, but if they won't say the cause for jhugz, then he wasn't fire for cause, yes?
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Precisely. Stating the "cause" opens them to litigation as well. I have rarely seen a company fire someone for "cause" unless the cause was very real and documented. At least from what jhugz says, that does not seem to be the case here.
 
Boris Badenov said:
Precisely. Stating the "cause" opens them to litigation as well. I have rarely seen a company fire someone for "cause" unless the cause was very real and documented. At least from what jhugz says, that does not seem to be the case here.
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Right. I doubt that firing him because he didn't want to come in to shovel snow for no pay would go across well in court.
 
A couple of things here.

1. Today, most companies will not give a reason for firing someone. Usually it will go something like, "your services are no longer required." The reason for this is because it can open them up to litigation inasmuch as if they gave you a reason then it might not be a legal reason. Attorneys have trained HR people to not give a reason. So you won't usually get a reason if the company is smart. You are not entitled to a reason.

2. Go ahead and file for unemployment ASAP. In Florida you can file online and not even have to stand in line. Hopefully your state has something similar. You might as well get the process started and it will give you something to do and you'll get some money coming in.

3. You now have a new full time job. Your full time job is looking for a job. In this business, jobs are found by networking. You need to really get your networking skills up to speed.

Pilots are survivors and we are trained to handle disasters. You will get through this because of where you have been and who you are.
 
Sorry to hear it.

Do what you need to do for a day or two to deal with the shock and frustration. Get drunk, hump a zoo animal. Whatever.

Then hit the streets.
 
After being told my services were no longer need I of course had questions. I have a good idea of what got me fired but if they actually came out and said what it was I think it would be opening a legal can of worms. When I tried to ask questions I was told this was not up for discussion and the reason that I thought I was getting fired for wasn't the issue at hand. I wanted an elaboration but that wasn't given to me. The CP walked out the door and wouldn't ask any other questions. I was told to turn in the keys and the epaulets (I almost started laughing at this one) immediately and to pack my stuff up otherwise they would call the police for an escort out. I don't want this black mark on my record so I'm persueing them to let me resign.

I'm heading out to get sloppy and maybe rock a farm animal as justified by another member on this forum.
 
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