Bandit_Driver
Gold Member
Gainful employment by a company which requires it's pilots to possess them!
Same here...
FCC Radio License
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Same here...
Bandit_Driver
Gold Member
Did anyone have to prove they could keep a "log" before getting the FCC license? Or is it all about the money?
For the pilot's FCC license it is all about the $$$$....Send them the money they send you the license. There is no test. The only test is seeing if you can find the right combination of forms to fill out.
Ramsey
Well-Known Member
No - civil all the way.
johnnybu
New Member
phew! thanks for the tip. I think it worked. There's actually a "request duplicate license" option link once I logged back in using my FRN number, but I'd be out another $60 dollars for a duplicate license. Saved me $60 dolla! mo' beer money for me!:beer:
Okay, I can explain this, having all the FCC licenses, both amateur and commercial. (There is a surprising amount of overlap between radio hams and pilots, same skill orientation, I guess.)
There are several different commercial licenses, a couple of which are designed for use on ships. Those aside, the one pilots have for international flights is the Restricted Radiotelephone Operator's Permit. As most respondents know, that just involves filling out a card and paying a fee, but it makes you legal.
The big step up from that is obtaining a General Radiotelephone Operator License. Basically this lets you repair aircraft transmitters. You need to pass 2 tests, which are given by FCC-approved exam groups called COLEMS. Each one costs about $30, plus the FCC gets another $60 fee. The exams are multiple choice tests and all the questions are on the FCC website. (Several books have both the GROL questions and answers.) So it parallels the FAA exam system. The first test is really easy and deals with basic regulations (don't swear on the air, know ship calling frequencies, etc.). That's required for a marine operator's permit, but if you get the GROL its privileges are folded in to it. The other exam is technical matters, so you need to know--or at least spit back--some across the board electronics. (And you can take another exam for a ship radar endorsement if you are interested in that technology.)
The licenses are all lifetime. Don't know if they are of any use except to show employers you've made an effort to learn more about systems, which I guess is a positive. (I'm a low time private so can't answer on what the lines are looking for.) Getting them are fun challenges if you're looking for something else to learn.
There are several different commercial licenses, a couple of which are designed for use on ships. Those aside, the one pilots have for international flights is the Restricted Radiotelephone Operator's Permit. As most respondents know, that just involves filling out a card and paying a fee, but it makes you legal.
The big step up from that is obtaining a General Radiotelephone Operator License. Basically this lets you repair aircraft transmitters. You need to pass 2 tests, which are given by FCC-approved exam groups called COLEMS. Each one costs about $30, plus the FCC gets another $60 fee. The exams are multiple choice tests and all the questions are on the FCC website. (Several books have both the GROL questions and answers.) So it parallels the FAA exam system. The first test is really easy and deals with basic regulations (don't swear on the air, know ship calling frequencies, etc.). That's required for a marine operator's permit, but if you get the GROL its privileges are folded in to it. The other exam is technical matters, so you need to know--or at least spit back--some across the board electronics. (And you can take another exam for a ship radar endorsement if you are interested in that technology.)
The licenses are all lifetime. Don't know if they are of any use except to show employers you've made an effort to learn more about systems, which I guess is a positive. (I'm a low time private so can't answer on what the lines are looking for.) Getting them are fun challenges if you're looking for something else to learn.
Cloud Surfer
All Roads lead to Trantor
I wouldn't recommend that anyone buy it unless they actually need it for a particular job. It's just a waste of $60 if it's not being used.
