Faking ones death via plane crash?

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Well, how "Cooperish" of him!

How the hell would he jump out of a 'Bu? He must clank when he walks...
 
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A very weird story to say the least. I will try to keep an eye out for any updates in the local papers. (not that I expect them to be accurate from a flying standpoint, but maybe from a "What in the hell was he thinking!?!" perspective):confused:
 
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A Piper Pawnee? A "corporate" Piper Pawnee? With an autopilot? I'm sure it had a G1000 and a couple of GNS 530s too...:whatever:

Do news reporters look at pictures of these airplanes before they go rambling about them in their reports. How the hell can a single seat crop duster be considered "corporate"? I guess the champagne and caviar is strapped down in the back. It has, what, 7 instruments in the cockpit, neither of which is an autopilot I'm sure.

t-cart, what do you think?
 
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What cheese's me off the most (as a student pilot) is that this individual wasted a perfectly good airplane for god knows what reasons. To say nothing of the fact that he potentially risked the lives of people on the ground...who is to say that it was guaranteed to land in an uninhabited swamp?

:mad: Doesn't he know that there are tons of pilot students out there who fantasize about owning their own airplane some day? Could he not have just donated the plane to some local student rather than crashing the damn thing is swamp?!? Really, the selfishness of some people these days.

So, anyone up for buying a slightly muddy used piper such and such? You haul it, you keep it. :sarcasm:
 
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What cheese's me off the most (as a student pilot) is that this individual wasted a perfectly good airplane for god knows what reasons. To say nothing of the fact that he potentially risked the lives of people on the ground...who is to say that it was guaranteed to land in an uninhabited swamp?

:mad: Doesn't he know that there are tons of pilot students out there who fantasize about owning their own airplane some day? Could he not have just donated the plane to some local student rather than crashing the damn thing is swamp?!? Really, the selfishness of some people these days.

So, anyone up for buying a slightly muddy used piper such and such? You haul it, you keep it. :sarcasm:

Even if someone gave you an aircraft, the other costs associated with aircraft ownership would make it very challenging for most folks to afford - especially if you're talking high performance.
 
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I'm very interested in seeing what this guy has to say when the police/feds/etc. catch up with him. Poor fuel planning, though--he should have made sure there was enough in the tanks to get the plane to the Gulf and unrecoverability.

Regardless, you think the guy could have found a way to fake an accidental death that didn't involve putting the lives of others (both on the ground and buzzing around VFR at 2000) at risk.
 
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He shouldn't have made any emergency calls at all. And +1 on the dumping it in the gulf rather than a swamp. Some preflight planning could have ensured that the fuel ran out at the appropriate time so that the aircraft would be very deep in the sea. Had he done this we probably would never have found out.
 
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Weird:

(CNN) -- The pilot who signaled air traffic controllers that his windshield had imploded and that he was bleeding before his plane crashed faked the call and later checked into a hotel using a false name Monday, authorities said.


The Piper PA-36 aircraft crashed Sunday night near Milton, Florida, authorities say.

Authorities identified the pilot as Marcus Schrenker, 38, from Indiana. Authorities say they are looking for him.

"All indications now are that he made some type of false emergency call [and] abandoned the plane by parachute," said Sgt. Scott Haines of the Santa Rosa County, Florida, Sheriff's Office.

Haines said the pilot checked into a hotel in the Harpersville, Alabama, area under a false name.

Harpersville is 30 minutes east of Birmingham, Alabama, and about 223 miles north of Milton, Florida, near where the wrecked plane was found. iReport.com: Are you near the crash scene? Tell us what you've seen

Haines did not know the whereabouts of the pilot.

"I do not believe they have him in custody," he said.

Santa Rosa County Sheriff's Office got a call at 2:26 a.m. from the Childersburg Police Department in Alabama saying that a white male, identified as Schrenker by his Indiana driver's license, approached a Childersburg officer at a store.

Schrenker, who was wet from the knees down and had no injuries, told the officer that he had been in a canoeing accident with friends, the Santa Rosa Sheriff's Office said in a news release. Schrenker had goggles that looked like they were made for "flying," according to the release.

The Childersburg police didn't know about the plane crash, so they took Schrenker to a nearby hotel, authorities said. When police found out about the crash, they went back to the hotel and entered Schrenker's room. He was not there, they said.

According to Santa Rosa authorities, Schrenker had checked in under a fake name, paid for his room in cash and "put on a black toboggan cap and ran into the woods located next to the hotel."

CNN could not immediately reach a representative for Schrenker. The phone number listed for his business address was disconnected. He does not have a home phone number listed.

He is listed online as president of an Indianapolis agency called Heritage Wealth Management, but no contact information for that agency was available. The address of the business is the same as the address associated with Schrenker's aircraft in aviation records.

Police in Harpersville told CNN they had no immediate comment. Federal investigators were helping in the probe.

Earlier Monday, federal investigators said they believed the pilot may have parachuted out of the Piper PA-36 aircraft before it crashed at 9:15 p.m. CT Sunday in a swampy area of Blackwater River in East Milton, Florida.

Military jets found the aircraft Sunday. The plane was lying upside down, its door open and the cockpit empty, according to Haines.

Kathleen Bergen, spokeswoman for the Federal Aviation Administration, said a "detailed review of radar data" and the fact that the plane had switched to autopilot suggested that the pilot might have parachuted.

The pilot was the only person aboard, authorities said.

On Sunday evening, the pilot contacted air traffic controllers and told them the plane's windshield had imploded and that he was bleeding profusely, Haines said.

That call came in when the aircraft was about 35 miles southwest of Birmingham, Alabama. Controllers tried to tell the pilot to divert the flight to Pell City, Alabama, but he did not respond. The plane appeared to have been put on autopilot around 2,000 feet, Haines said.

The plane was scheduled to land in Destin, Florida, authorities said.

Military jets that first spotted the wreckage described the cockpit as empty. Bergen said the cockpit was mostly intact and the door to the aircraft was open.

The corporate plane does not have an ejection feature, and the pilot did not have a parachute when he took off Sunday from Anderson Municipal Airport in Anderson, Indiana, airport manager Steve Darlington told CNN.

Darlington described the pilot as "accomplished" and said he owns "a couple of airplanes" and flies regularly.

Helicopters, planes, boats, and dogs and rescue crews were involved in searching the area.
 
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He shouldn't have made any emergency calls at all. And +1 on the dumping it in the gulf rather than a swamp. Some preflight planning could have ensured that the fuel ran out at the appropriate time so that the aircraft would be very deep in the sea. Had he done this we probably would never have found out.

Didn't a guy try this years ago in a 210? There was video of him slumped over after getting shot (only 1 person in the plane). They even had footage of the plane running out of fuel and gliding in to the drink. I think the guy ended-up in the Atlantic NW of the Bahamas. I don't think his next of kin got the pay out either.

Found an article.

...and another.
 
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Should've done it right and go looking for a good glider spot out in the Sierra Nevadas, wouldn't had been found for more than a year!
 
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Didn't a guy try this years ago in a 210? There was video of him slumped over after getting shot (only 1 person in the plane). They even had footage of the plane running out of fuel and gliding in to the drink. I think the guy ended-up in the Atlantic NW of the Bahamas. I don't think his next of kin got the pay out either.

Found an article.

...and another.

Just for fun, here's the NTSB report: MIA89LA195

And for more fun, the "old dog, new tricks" hackneyed phrase applies here. Root is still alive AND still getting into trouble:
http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/pae/News/Pr/2007/mar/root.html
http://readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=86642

We can all hope, however, that he is no longer flying.
 
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I don't know why you'd want to leave the autopilot on, that's just ridiculous. That makes it known that you jumped out. It's better to be higher up too, that way there's nothing evidence left when the thing hits the ground. (extreme sarcasm)
 
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Does the misplaced pilot really run a hedge fund?

Looks like he's a financial adviser. One talking head just said he learned to fly in the good ol' USAF. He apparently had an aerobatic plane, too. The police found the plane with an intact windscreen and no blood.

If this goes down the way things are looking, he had access to a chute, some training, and a really poorly planned/executed plan. Folks like this give pilots and aviation a bad name.
 
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Do news reporters look at pictures of these airplanes before they go rambling about them in their reports. How the hell can a single seat crop duster be considered "corporate"? I guess the champagne and caviar is strapped down in the back. It has, what, 7 instruments in the cockpit, neither of which is an autopilot I'm sure.

t-cart, what do you think?[/QUOTE]

Whats even more scarey is the fact people listen to news for advice on things like who to vote for, and other important things. I have had friends for years in the law enforcement/fire rescue field and I hear over and over how the stories reported are never even close to what actually happens.
I stopped watching the news on tv several years ago!

Dont know for sure yet, but I have heard that it may have been a Piper malibu (pa-46 its just one number, give em a break). It would make a little more since then a pa-36. Imagine a flight from Indana to Florida in a pawnee...
 
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