Faa says Fo's are off the hook.

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FAA REQUIREMENT FOR FO FIRST-CLASS MEDICAL RESCINDED: The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) published its final rulemaking today regarding Pilot Certification Requirements for Air Carrier Operations. The APA Safety Committee has been working with the American Airlines Flight Department and our FAA Principal Operations Inspector to clarify the published guidance on medical requirements.

We have received confirmation from the Flight Department that contrary to previous explicit guidance from the FAA, there will not be a requirement for Domestic First Officers to maintain a First Class Medical to exercise the privileges of their ATP ratings. It is important to note that this requirement applies to operations that do not require a First Officer to meet PIC requirements (a domestic First Officer on a non-augmented crew). For Domestic First Officers that are currently authorized to fly with a Second Class Medical, they may continue to operate after August 1 with a Second Class.

The change from the previous guidance is due to the final rule containing a change to FAR 61.23. The FAA guidance prior to the rule being published had to adhere to 61.23 as written at that time, which would have made the First Class Medical requirement valid. The Flight Department will also be publishing guidance on this change.

We recognize that there has been considerable frustration with the process to this point, but in the long run retaining the current requirements for First Officer medical certification will be preferable to what had been proposed.
 
FAA REQUIREMENT FOR FO FIRST-CLASS MEDICAL RESCINDED: The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) published its final rulemaking today regarding Pilot Certification Requirements for Air Carrier Operations. The APA Safety Committee has been working with the American Airlines Flight Department and our FAA Principal Operations Inspector to clarify the published guidance on medical requirements.

We have received confirmation from the Flight Department that contrary to previous explicit guidance from the FAA, there will not be a requirement for Domestic First Officers to maintain a First Class Medical to exercise the privileges of their ATP ratings. It is important to note that this requirement applies to operations that do not require a First Officer to meet PIC requirements (a domestic First Officer on a non-augmented crew). For Domestic First Officers that are currently authorized to fly with a Second Class Medical, they may continue to operate after August 1 with a Second Class.

The change from the previous guidance is due to the final rule containing a change to FAR 61.23. The FAA guidance prior to the rule being published had to adhere to 61.23 as written at that time, which would have made the First Class Medical requirement valid. The Flight Department will also be publishing guidance on this change.

We recognize that there has been considerable frustration with the process to this point, but in the long run retaining the current requirements for First Officer medical certification will be preferable to what had been proposed.

Now if only it were somehow cheaper to get a second class medical.
 
Weird. I need to get mine renewed and I'll save $30 going second class.

I forgot if you were flying 121 or not but I would suggest always having a 1st class. I got bumped into a captain position because someone couldn't get a 1st class before a sudden class date.
 
I forgot if you were flying 121 or not but I would suggest always having a 1st class. I got bumped into a captain position because someone couldn't get a 1st class before a sudden class date.
Nah I'm an instrument student right now, planning on staying 2nd then 3rd class unless when I find a CFI job down the road they require a 1st class. Otherwise I'd wait until 121 since I held a 1st class in the recent past so I'm not too worried about being denied when I upgrade.
 
Personally, if I had my eyes on a Part-121 job, I would maintain a 1st class.

A couple of pointers. When you technically require a first class like applying for an airline, or your number comes up for upgrade, perhaps unexpectedly, you may discover that you no longer qualify.

I know a lot of guys this happened to.

That's how I roll, but do what you want, of course. I won't try to convince you otherwise.
 
Personally, if I had my eyes on a Part-121 job, I would maintain a 1st class.

A couple of pointers. When you technically require a first class like applying for an airline, or your number comes up for upgrade, perhaps unexpectedly, you may discover that you no longer qualify.

I know a lot of guys this happened to.

That's how I roll, but do what you want, of course. I won't try to convince you otherwise.
yep
 
Personally, if I had my eyes on a Part-121 job, I would maintain a 1st class.

A couple of pointers. When you technically require a first class like applying for an airline, or your number comes up for upgrade, perhaps unexpectedly, you may discover that you no longer qualify.

I know a lot of guys this happened to.

That's how I roll, but do what you want, of course. I won't try to convince you otherwise.
Bah, you and your logic. I'm trying to save $30!

Guess it couldn't hurt. Thanks.
 
Faulty logic perhaps: I busted my rump to get my ATP so why wouldn't I maintain a 1st class medical to go along with it. Kinda like when I got my CFI. Why not just go ahead and get the II and MEI (once I sold, stole and saved to pay for it that is). I've come this far, why not keep it all to the highest level possible?
 
After getting my private, I decided to pursue an aviation career. I went in for a second class. I can't remember when it was, but the doctor said "Why not make it a first?" Made it into a first class on the spot before I left. Same charge.
 
Personally, if I had my eyes on a Part-121 job, I would maintain a 1st class.

A couple of pointers. When you technically require a first class like applying for an airline, or your number comes up for upgrade, perhaps unexpectedly, you may discover that you no longer qualify.

I know a lot of guys this happened to.

That's how I roll, but do what you want, of course. I won't try to convince you otherwise.
Exactly Derg. I've had a first class since day one of flight school.
 
I get a 2nd class for $50, but company reimburses costs anyway per the CBA.

The only reason I don't maintain a 1st is because there is only 1 AME in town and he only does 2nds.

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