FAA DUI Policy

My Flight Surgeon

My Flight Surgeon

Sr. Aviation Medical Examiner
The Federal Aviation Administration has a new policy on a single DUI (driving under the influence, or driving while intoxicated) offense. Airmen must now report arrests, convictions, and administrative actions by checking “yes” at line 18.v of FAA Form 8500-8. There is also a requirement to report within 60 days any of the previously mentioned actions to FAA Security, per Title 14 Code of Federal Regulations
part 61.15 (e). You must also report the DUI on the very next FAA medical examination! In the past, the FAA gave the airman a “free pass” on the first DUI offense. The AME must now obtain the court documents (read this to mean the airman must provide them to the AME) and the AME must question the airman, and if the airman had a blood alcohol level of > 0.15 or a positive alcohol test, the AME must defer the airman’s medical certification to the FAA. If the airman refused to allow the police to take a sample, the AME are required also to defer. The FAA will then insist that the airman obtain a substance abuse evaluation from a recognized counselor as a condition of further consideration of issuance of a medical certificate.
 
where can one find the FAA's definition of Administrative actions?

(the above is not in reference to a DUI)
 
How will this affect guys who have a single DUI and reported it in the past and got the free pass? Will they now be forced to undergo the evaluation? If they blow something below a .15 will they still get the free pass? Also how will this affect the other alcohol offenses such as public intox and underages?

For the record I dont have a DUI but I do have a health drinking habit so I am curious as to how this will affect everything else.
 
If it was previously reported, you will be OK as long as you continue to report it as "previously reported, no change".

Jbroz04 said:
How will this affect guys who have a single DUI and reported it in the past and got the free pass? Will they now be forced to undergo the evaluation? If they blow something below a .15 will they still get the free pass? Also how will this affect the other alcohol offenses such as public intox and underages?

For the record I dont have a DUI but I do have a health drinking habit so I am curious as to how this will affect everything else.
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Boris Badenov said:
I'm sure I'd like feeling that way, too. But what does it have to do with medical certification procedures for airmen with DUIs?
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The DUI represents the personality trait to make foolish decisions and to ignore the "rules". The data I have seen indicates alcohol is the one of the common causes of accidents.
 
My Flight Surgeon said:
The DUI represents the personality trait to make foolish decisions and to ignore the "rules". The data I have seen indicates alcohol is the one of the common causes of accidents.
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I don't disagree with that. I just don't understand what any of this has to do with keeping someone's wife and kids safe in one of the most dangerous states in the nation for drunk driving. There's some link I'm just not getting. Like, if the OP had said "I like to feel that my wife and kids are safe from Drinky McGlugglug on any flight in the US", I'd understand the relevance.
 
For the FAA it is not about keeping your family safe from drunk drivers, it is about keeping potentially alcoholic pilots out of th air.
 
surreal1221 said:
where can one find the FAA's definition of Administrative actions?

Related to DUI,etc. the FAA says "attendance at an educational or rehabilitation program in lieu of conviction; license denial, suspension, cancellation, or revocation for refusal to be tested; educational safe driving program for multiple speeding convictions; etc." are examplesof actions.

(the above is not in reference to a DUI)
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I have two students who went for their initial student medicals, and were denied because of prior drug related arrests. They've both been deferred to the regional surgeon, and are being required to see a substance abuse psychologist for an evaluation.
 
7700 said:
I have two students who went for their initial student medicals, and were denied because of prior drug related arrests. They've both been deferred to the regional surgeon, and are being required to see a substance abuse psychologist for an evaluation.
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Drugs are treated more severely than alcohol since they are illegal. Makes no sense but it is PC.
 
How does the FAA view alcohol related arrests that don't involve driving? I am asking because I know of a Corporate Captain that was arrested for Public Intoxication, Lewd conduct and trespassing. I won't go into the details but the situation is the epitome of poor decision making. Does this incident need to be reported or does the FAA only concern itself with DUI?

Just curious.
 
wanabe said:
How does the FAA view alcohol related arrests that don't involve driving? I am asking because I know of a Corporate Captain that was arrested for Public Intoxication, Lewd conduct and trespassing. I won't go into the details but the situation is the epitome of poor decision making. Does this incident need to be reported or does the FAA only concern itself with DUI?

Just curious.
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Item 18. Medical History
w. History of nontraffic convictions

The applicant must report any other (nontraffic) convictions (e.g., assault, battery, public intoxication, robbery, etc.). The applicant must name the charge for which convicted and the date of the conviction(s), and copies of court documents.
 
So a moving violation, fine paid, does that constitute an administrative action that I must now report? Or is it only asking about substance abuse that had a role in the illegal operation of a vehicle (DUI)? Sorry, been out of the game for just a little while - not too sure what the hell is going on now-a-days with medicals.

Oh say, a blown stop sign. You know, when you slow to pretty much a stop . . . but the cop hiding out under the bridge didn't think you stop enough. Citation, Fine, Guilty.

Or would it be best for me to contact my own personal AME?
 
i am a student pilot with 19.2 hours of flying time.im trying to get my privet pilot certifecet.i have not flyed solo yet.i went to get my third class medicel certificet and passed fine exsept i have had 2 public intoxecation mesdimeners the first back in november 2005 and three years later in febuary 2008.the medicel examener said that he could not pass me until i got police reports and court papers for both insdents and he said its up to the FAA.but i called AOPA and i ask them what the FAA is going to do.they said every thing should be fine just send them the paper work they ask for.then they said the FAA may want to have me evaluated.so if so how many hours do you have do evaluation and how much does it cost.and what goes on at it
 
if they ask for a evalution expect to spend between 2000-3000 on that. I'm not sure if they would make you get one. it is possible though since you had two alochol related convictions. If it was just one it wouldnt be a issue. They basically are looking to see if you have a alochol abuse problem. It is a lengthly process though. Looking at probally at least 3 months.
 
charlied777 said:
i am a student pilot with 19.2 hours of flying time.im trying to get my privet pilot certifecet.i have not flyed solo yet.i went to get my third class medicel certificet and passed fine exsept i have had 2 public intoxecation mesdimeners the first back in november 2005 and three years later in febuary 2008.the medicel examener said that he could not pass me until i got police reports and court papers for both insdents and he said its up to the FAA.but i called AOPA and i ask them what the FAA is going to do.they said every thing should be fine just send them the paper work they ask for.then they said the FAA may want to have me evaluated.so if so how many hours do you have do evaluation and how much does it cost.and what goes on at it
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You will talk with the psychologist or psychiatrist for 2-3 hours. The cost varies but in Phoenix it is about $1000.
 
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