Express Jet

robair73

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Since a number of regional airlines have dropped their minimums lately, Express Jet seems to be the lowest right now. Does anyone work for Express Jet or have any info on how they stack up against the rest.

Right now I barely meet their requirements and I've applied. I would love to move up to a regional carrier, but I'm a little concerned. I'm reluctant to jump on to the first carrier that comes along just because they'll hire me. Maybe I should stick it out a little longer instructing to wait for something better. Any thoughts?
 
What are their minimums right now? Or where can I find it? The Expressjet website is less than helpful.

Nevermind, I found it: The minimums are officially 600TT and 100ME with 20 hrs of Actual instrument.

MF
 
expressjet it good from what i hear. THey are in contract negotiations right now. Curently their pay isnt the greatest, but some people with expressjet say that once they reach an agreement there w-2's will be comparable to Comairs. Wishful thinking? I dont know its just what I heard.

-Brian
 
Express is growing, from what I've heard a class of ~20 new hires every month till the end of next year. Jungle jets are coming. Bases: IAH, CLE, EWR.
The management doesn’t like the pilots too much though - they really do deserve more money.

Their exclusive contract with Continental expires some time in 2006 (?) when CAL might have an understandable desire to sign with a couple of other regionals to diversify the force.. Also CAL used to own them and had CAL senior folks on Express’ board of directors. Well.. no longer.
 
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Since a number of regional airlines have dropped their minimums lately, Express Jet seems to be the lowest right now. Does anyone work for Express Jet or have any info on how they stack up against the rest.

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Matt will be along shortly to tell you that Express Jet is the best regional that there ever has been, bar none - stay tuned! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Seriously - you're asking for an objective answer to a subjective question. XJT may be my dream job but if you go to work there you may hate it. Actually there are a number of reasons I would choose not to go to Express Jet but it's a good company and may be the perfect fit for you - that's something you'll have to decide. If you want to move up to a regional and go fly jets and XJT offers you a job then take it! If after a year you don't like it then go somewhere else. The ERJ is a good airplane(the CRJ is better but I'm biased /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif ), 121 turbojet time in your logbook is never a bad thing, and it **probably** pays better than instructing. Go for it!

As far as the exclusive contract with CAL expiring in a few years - do they even have one?? Don't they already have a few contract carriers flying turboprops as "CAL Connection"? At any rate, the stability at XJT is just as good as anywhere else. But I'm not to ask about stability - I've got 2 airline and 2 corporate uniforms hanging in the closet and about to start at operator #5 and I've only been out of school for 6 years now - and they were all "good, solid, growing" companies when I signed on with them.

Jason
 
Sorry, Jason, I meant to say exclusive” JET flying out of the hubs” contract between XJT and CAL - “Continental Express”.

Gulfstream and SkyWest do prop flying for “Continental connection”.
The contract between XJT pilots and XJT expired some time ago and the guys have been working without one…
 
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SkyWest do prop flying for “Continental connection”

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SkyWest? Contenental? Is that a new contract? Never heard of it.
 
I don't know if this is the best regional out there, but I will tell you that this place definitely has it's stuff together. I can't compare it to Eagle, SkyWest, Air Wisconsin, or any of the rest since I haven't been to those places. But I wouldn't look at the hour requirements and think this airline is hiring losers. They dropped the minimums because they couldn't find quality applicants with times above 1000 and 200.

I have a good buddy who is in recruitment at Airnet. He's been saying that grumblings around HR departments (he meets recruiters at all the airlines at job fairs and conventions) is that there just aren't enough decent applicants out there. Not because of time or experience, but because of personality-type issues.

If you have the time to apply, I'd apply here. I have no idea what the future holds in regards to our contract, the CAL capacity-purchase agreement, 70-seaters, an airline acquision, or the rest. But right now, even under a 7-year old contract, this place is a dang-fine-nice place to be compared to many others. You'll gain experience flying into many of the country's largest airports in an all-glass FMS-equipped jet. We're certified for CAT II approaches, and soon will be certified for RNAV approaches (when we get VNAV... happening very soon). We fly all over Mexico and Canada, and also to the Bahamas. The company has in place some very impressive safety programs through FOQA and an ASAP program (sort of like ASRS). This place is run pretty much like a major airline... all jet, 2500+ pilots, 140+ destinations, and international flying.

I'm really happy here. But like it was said above, to each his/her own!
 
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But I wouldn't look at the hour requirements and think this airline is hiring losers. They dropped the minimums because they couldn't find quality applicants with times above 1000 and 200.

I have a good buddy who is in recruitment at Airnet. He's been saying that grumblings around HR departments (he meets recruiters at all the airlines at job fairs and conventions) is that there just aren't enough decent applicants out there.

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Man....don't let Kit Darby hear you say that!
 
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I have a good buddy who is in recruitment at Airnet. He's been saying that grumblings around HR departments (he meets recruiters at all the airlines at job fairs and conventions) is that there just aren't enough decent applicants out there. Not because of time or experience, but because of personality-type issues.

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I just thought I'd expand on this. I think this is a clear example of what many people on the boards have been trying to reiterate time and time again. When it comes down to it, flying skills, hours, ratings or flight experience are only a piece of a very large pie of which HR departments use to evaluate an applicant. More than anything, with the more CRM-oriented industry we are in, recruiters are looking for applicants to have more traits associated with socialbility, leadership, customer service, determination, planning, workload management, and the like. Not to say they haven't always looked for these things in some way, shape or form, but nowadays they are becoming more relevant.

Where can one attain some of these traits, or expand on them? Most notably... college! Also, the military for those inclined to lean that direction, or even working outside of a pilot position in jobs that require task management, leadership, and a high degree of customer relations.

But for many on these boards who are young like me and choosing the civilian route, college is the best answer. I speak from my own personal experience in college, and how my four years taking various non-aviation related classes, flying, and pursuing other extracurricular interests helped shape me into a much different person than I was when graduating high school.

In these times, we have many pilots completely bypassing these routes, and immediately moving from high school to a community college in their area for a year or two, before taking out massive loans to pay for flight training at some of the large "ab initio" type schools across the country. Now, I do not necessarily have anything against these schools (minus those who are PFT-types). But moving directly into them with minimal life experience and strictly focusing on flying, then attempting to move into a position in something like charter or a regional airline, in my opinion puts these pilots at a distinct disadvantage (not to mention financial disadvantage). The modern airline cockpit is probably only 10-20% flying. The rest of the time is customer service, systems management, CRM, communication, task management, and situational awareness.

Anyways, I kinda got on the soapbox here. I just saw an opportunity here to reiterate the need for training pilots to not only focus on stick and rudder skills and operations knowledge, but also to expand the other personality-associated traits which are IMHO a necessarity entity in the modern cockpit. This means finding things that will allow you to "expand your horizons" if you will, and help you become a more well-rounded individual. Which is exactly what HR departments are starting to look for in this CRM-driven industry.
 
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When it comes down to it, flying skills, hours, ratings or flight experience are only a piece of a very large pie of which HR departments use to evaluate an applicant. More than anything, with the more CRM-oriented industry we are in, recruiters are looking for applicants to have more traits associated with socialbility, leadership, customer service, determination, planning, workload management, and the like. Not to say they haven't always looked for these things in some way, shape or form, but nowadays they are becoming more relevant.

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I cannot believe I'm going to say this.....

Disney/Universal/Sea World does a good job of training their people in those skills. Damn, I said something good about Disney. Seriously though, they give their employees the power to get creative in order to solve guest situations. If you can't handle working with or around people, you won't survive long at any of those companies. Move into a lower management position (which is where I spent a majority of my time), then you throw in juggling scheduling, planning, crisis management, referee, shoulder to cry on, and you get to deal with the REALLY bad situations your staff can't.
 
Fly Chicaga,

Good advice. I am one of those people, or was going to be, who wanted to jump into a flight program at a 2 year community college right out of highschool. I have realized lately that I do have time, I am young. The stress and worry I had has literally disappearded for the most part, and im enjoying school. I will fly professionally, but I have time to get there.
Sometimes, we are so eager and determined to become an airline pilot, or at least to start the journey to become one, that it consumes us. (For those just starting out) We usually dont like to hear things, like what you posted, even though it is the best advice. It is only lately that, actually living this advice, I have settled down, a lot more relaxed, and one day it will happen.
 
I was all set to drop everything and head to MAPD, even with the US Air fiasco going on. After talking to a lot of more experienced guys in Vegas over the weekend, I've decided to take the slow but sure way of a CFI. Gives me more options when I do have the hours to apply instead of putting all my eggs in one basket at Mesa.
 
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I was all set to drop everything and head to MAPD, even with the US Air fiasco going on. After talking to a lot of more experienced guys in Vegas over the weekend, I've decided to take the slow but sure way of a CFI. Gives me more options when I do have the hours to apply instead of putting all my eggs in one basket at Mesa.

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Told ya so....... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
I'm interviewing at IAH with Xjet next week.

I had about 800 total time and 150 multi when I applied online. They called be back a few weeks later and asked me to fax a resume. I did that, then they called back a few days later and conducted a phone interview. They asked me some basic instrument questions and some questions about my work history and flight expreience. I answered those correctly and they scheduled me for a face-to-face interview on 10/6.

Hopefully I can get the job if they overlook my size (weight) and temporary lack of 4-year degree (3 years and still working, grades less than stellar however). If not, well at least I got to experience an airline interview. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger I guess.

They did a phone interview with one of my fellow CFI's who had even less time than me (700/130). He botched the phone interivew (didn't know what MVA was and couldn't remember service ceiling on the seminole) and didn't get an interview.
 
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I'm interviewing at IAH with Xjet next week.

I had about 800 total time and 150 multi when I applied online. They called be back a few weeks later and asked me to fax a resume. I did that, then they called back a few days later and conducted a phone interview. They asked me some basic instrument questions and some questions about my work history and flight expreience. I answered those correctly and they scheduled me for a face-to-face interview on 10/6.

Hopefully I can get the job if they overlook my size (weight) and temporary lack of 4-year degree (3 years and still working, grades less than stellar however). If not, well at least I got to experience an airline interview. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger I guess.

They did a phone interview with one of my fellow CFI's who had even less time than me (700/130). He botched the phone interivew (didn't know what MVA was and couldn't remember service ceiling on the seminole) and didn't get an interview.

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Good luck with your interview at XJET! I am a brand new instrument student and was just wondering what were some of the other questions they asked you on your phone interview? Keep us posted!
 
What's the difference between a VOR and a VOR-A approach?

What are the maximum holding speeds?

What are MVA and MSA? When can you use MSA?

What is the service ceiling on the twin you've flown the most? Single engine service ceiling? Vmc?

What would you do if you noticed on the takeoff roll that the captain didn't have his shoulder harness fastened?
 
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What's the difference between a VOR and a VOR-A approach?

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What are the maximum holding speeds?

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Don't care. But I hold around 275-300 for performace issues.

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What are MVA and MSA? When can you use MSA?

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min vec, min safe. What's ESA, and how does it differ from MSA?

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What is the service ceiling on the twin you've flown the most? Single engine service ceiling? Vmc?

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1. class. 2. @15,000 depending. 3. don't know. it's well below Vs and centerline thrust.

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What would you do if you noticed on the takeoff roll that the captain didn't have his shoulder harness fastened?

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I'd kill anyone that aborted for this one...........same as aborting for a "master caution" light and frying the brakes, etc; only to find it was a IFF warning light.

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