ctab5060X
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Excellent analogy.
Expedited security screening for frequent flyers?
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Excellent analogy.
saxman
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wheelsup said:
I knew there has to be TSA guys that are thinking the same thing everyone else is. It's just really annoying when you get that one guy on a power trip and gets upset that you didn't have your mustard packet in the 1 oz. plastic "baggy" and says you have to have everything in a "baggy" because it's all of a sudden safer because my liquids are in a baggy now.
Bigey
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I'm actually pretty surprised with most TSA folks. I've become buddies with a few of them since they do these "random gate checks" so I'll chat them up. For the most part they understand what they do doesn't actually prevent terrorist acts. I've learned not to hate on the TSA guys, they're just doing their job and trying to make a living.
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Schnier and I see largely eye to eye on this. Without a method to positively validate your identity the whole time through, screening is largely useless. Step one of information security is identity validation and air transportation is in this respect no different from keeping evildoers out of computer networks.
(also: thank god for The Atlantic and its long form reporting. Without it, I would have nothing deeply cerebral to read in news magazines online.)
It's my firm belief that other than guns and explosives, narcotics, depressants, stimulants or marijuana, knives, bludgeons, nuclear, chemical and biological weapons you should be able to carry on just about whatever you want, and we'll make sure that you aren't an evildoer because we've examined your background and behavior, and confirmed that you are not an employee of Evildoer LLC, a part of al Qaeda d/b/a Jihad, Inc., or its affiliates, subsidiaries or alliance partners worldwide. Also that you are not a wanted felon, or drug smuggler.
It also doesn't have to be obtrusive. It's my belief that without some way to confirm your identity (think about how mine is validated in CASS when I show up to jump seat), you should not be able to board a commercial airliner. My "ideal" model of airline security involves prescreening, background checking, and making sure you are who you purport to be when you buy your ticket, when you show up for a cursory inspection of your bags and person (or perhaps more than a cursory inspection depending on--drum roll--the reasonable level of suspicion you or your actions arouse), and when you board the aircraft...in addition to a few other things. Throughout the process, you can have your dignity respected and for the most part keep your shoes on.
A smart, threat based approach to aviation security can work, and it can work better than the current "make sure they aren't carrying anything on the ever expanding list of enumerated badness" approach, but it requires a fundamental rethinking and retooling of how things are done that might include some form of Federal identification. Pre check is a step in the right direction, but I fear that the opportunities for serious reform have passed.
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TUS is downright cordial. Burbank isn't bad either.
It's a lot like the FAA: despite being a national organization there really is a significant difference in which station you are dealing with, as to how policy is enforced and how you are treated. It's an inevitability with any large organization that is geographically far flung.
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