Ex-UAL pilot sues United for defamation

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Pilot Sues United Airlines For Defamation Over Landing That Left Boeing 767 With Major Damage That Took Seven Months to Repair

An ex-United Airlines pilot who was terminated by the Chicago-based carrier following an abnormal landing that left one of the airline’s aging fleet of Boeing 767s with such severe damage that it took seven months to be repaired is now suing the airline for defamation. Romullo Silva filed his...
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In his lawsuit, Silva admits that he was the pilot flying the plane at the time of the accident but insinuates that the Captain was responsible for the unusual landing because he failed to arm the speed brake. The fact that the speed brakes weren’t armed, Silva claims, was the reason that the nose gear “went down hard on the runway.”








I’m fairly certain that auto-speed brake can be deferred/MEL? That has nothing to do with the nose coming crashing down to the runway 3 times.
 
Yikes is all I can say. We just had an auto speed brake MEL’d the other day and plenty of times before. Usually doesn’t result in the nose crashing down.

Idk how reliable “paddleyourownkanoo” is for news but if this is true I would’ve shut my mouth and lived to F up another day if I was the FO, especially being that new at the company.
 
phill1174 said:
Yikes is all I can say. We just had an auto speed brake MEL’d the other day and plenty of times before. Usually doesn’t result in the nose crashing down.

Idk how reliable “paddleyourownkanoo” is for news but if this is true I would’ve shut my mouth and lived to F up another day if I was the FO, especially being that new at the company.
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Paddle your own kazoo (LOL) is literally the most “forwarded” site by pilots. I just can’t take that URL seriously.

But airlines and pilots sue one another with reckless abandon. I have a buddy that said someone walked into a job fair with a lawsuit in-progress from another airline. There was some other stuff, but saving it for “story time with derg” offline
 
The lawsuit is confirmed. Not disputing the slammer in the runway just it was the other guys fault because he shouldve done something..Nice. Just googling the name it appears he was very very green. Dreams to Careers - Aero Crew News . I dont know guys, but maybe going from Cherokee to 767 in a few years isnt a good idea. I am not advocating for raising the retirement age, but this sort of Ab-initio stuff isnt a great idea. Theres a deeper bench of regional captains and military pilots that would be better candidates.
 
derg said:
Paddle your own kazoo (LOL) is literally the most “forwarded” site by pilots. I just can’t take that URL seriously.

But airlines and pilots sue one another with reckless abandon. I have a buddy that said someone walked into a job fair with a lawsuit in-progress from another airline. There was some other stuff, but saving it for “story time with derg” offline
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We have a pilot who is suing the company because one of the holdings in a target fund available in our 401k has ESG initiatives that he wasn’t aware of. 😂
 
Kingairer said:
The lawsuit is confirmed. Not disputing the slammer in the runway just it was the other guys fault because he shouldve done something..Nice. Just googling the name it appears he was very very green. Dreams to Careers - Aero Crew News . I dont know guys, but maybe going from Cherokee to 767 in a few years isnt a good idea. I am not advocating for raising the retirement age, but this sort of Ab-initio stuff isnt a great idea. Theres a deeper bench of regional captains and military pilots that would be better candidates.
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Or maybe we don’t push candidates through that aren’t cutting it. There are plenty of pilots hired during the same time period as this fellow with the same experience, that are at majors that aren’t PIO-ing down the runways for a good time.

For some reason there is this new group think that everyone can be a pilot. They just need more time or more sim sessions. And it just isn’t true. The fact that this guy is trying to blame someone else for his screwup is telling me everything I need to know about him as a pilot.
 
I find myself wondering how much of the decision to fire the pilat was based not on bending metal, but on actions after the incident (“my captain should have…”).

I understand they were in their probationary period. How much say does ALPA have during that time?
 
Wardogg said:
Or maybe we don’t push candidates through that aren’t cutting it. There are plenty of pilots hired during the same time period as this fellow with the same experience, that are at majors that aren’t PIO-ing down the runways for a good time.

For some reason there is this new group think that everyone can be a pilot. They just need more time or more sim sessions. And it just isn’t true. The fact that this guy is trying to blame someone else for his screwup is telling me everything I need to know about him as a pilot.
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This.

At jetU (yeah yeah make all the jokes), I saw similar. It was already bad being low time. But quite a few students had a mindset of, “I’ve paid for my course, now they owe me training and the job, that this is all on them.”

Instead of focusing inward, trying to have a good attitude, studying extra hard, keeping instrument scans and skills sharp, etc, they took it as a sit back and relax ride.

No one should owe a 121 flying job. If you don’t make the cut, have failed too many times, attitude sucks, bad personality, some authority ought to pull their rug and say, this just isn’t for you.

If someone had done that to the Colgan CA and Atlas FO, those crashes wouldn’t have happened.
 
Minuteman said:
I understand they were in their probationary period. How much say does ALPA have during that time?
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Some. Around here, they have to at least have a reason for tossing a probationary pylotte (something not 'arbitrary and capricious') if you've completed OE. Prior to OE they can just...dispose...of you.

There are things in the complaint that sound unlikely and the thing was prepared by a Georgia tax attorney so...
 
Misusing speedbrakes on landing isn't known for causing nose wheel issues. It is known for tail strikes.

The FDR showed the nose coming down the first time after the right main came up off the ground. The NTSB doesn't expand on actual (FDR) pilot inputs yet.

In my experience the only thing hard about landing a 767-300ER is greasing it on. The backwards gear trucks seem to be evil in this regard.

Honestly, the dude will likely get his money if this goes beyond the opening stages in the lawsuit. Lawyers are expensive and $100k is nothing in lawyer fees with a drawn out federal lawsuit.
 
There are some pilots who believe pushing the nose down and planting it on the runway is what makes the plane stop flying. They don’t understand that the wing is flying.
 
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