Elon thinks manned fighters are stupid
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CoffeeIcePapers
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It does seem like the days of the 100 million dollar fighter are over.
BEEF SUPREME
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I know less than nothing about all this, but I'd be shocked if the war in Ukraine hasn't rewritten the book on how to warfare.
///AMG
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I've seen nothing to make me believe that manned fighters can be entirely replaced by droids. The technology is not there, at least that I am aware of. Certainly not based on what any random citizen like Musk, using open source info has knowledge of. But I imagine this is another game of "I have an ulterior motive" (some drone spinoff for musk industries would certainly be profitable)
I think Elon better work on the promise of self-driving cars which, my Tesla with all the bells and whistles, will quickly send me to a dirt nap if I'm not paying close attention to it at times.
I'm not saying he's wrong, but bruh, he's got grass in his own yard to cut before calling the HOA on the neighbors.
I'm not saying he's wrong, but bruh, he's got grass in his own yard to cut before calling the HOA on the neighbors.
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Speaking of which, is Todd still alive?
Anyway, don't you know we'll have self-driving cars in 2014? Er, wait... 2016. No, wait, in 2016, you'll be able to summon your car from across the country. And you can add it to a self-driving fleet, so that it earns money for you when you're not using it. It will join the 1million robotaxis on the road by 2020.
Maybe when ipv6 finally takes over, idk.
But people think I'm a luddite.
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///AMG
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I mean this is sort of a symbolic thought maybe, even if you didn't intend it to be, but in a practical sense, there absolutely has to be a reliable self driving car before we can take this stuff into 3D. And vertical guidance is like 1000000000 baby steps before a robot can make battlefield decisions at the same quality and pace as a seasoned aviator. I am well aware of the real cool tech guy story of an AI beating a "fighter pilot" in a sim. Would love to see that reproduced in actual real life. And BFM ("dogfighting") is such a muscle memory exercise, requiring very little higher level thinking IMO other than just raw experience (something that machine learning is likely good at now). Does not even begin to tell a story about what we mostly spend our time doing. And I say all this as a person that has very little personal skin still in the game. I think flying drone missile trucks would be great companions in a large scale war, and absolutely support this idea. I support the idea of unmanned fighters too, once they are viable. We just aren't there yet.
How are the mass of Waymo cars working out up there? See them all the time.
BlueMoon
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I worry he’s gonna get his way after pressuring Trump appointees to let Tesla FSD loose in its present form. The ensuing mayhem from people turning it on and not paying attention will not be pretty.
CFI A&P
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Gee, how far down Musk’s list of “government waste” is DOT/ NHTSA ? Surely there isn’t any conflict between his businesses and government oversight protecting consumers.
Great! Different tech entirely. When Waymo was adding more censors, Tesla said "Supply chain issues? Let's see what we can do with fewer sensors" and then reliability tumbled.
Roger Roger
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Need to ask @mattc206
Roger Roger
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They are all over in SF. Kids got excited every time they saw a “robot car!”. Seems to me like they just add to congestion, when you already have trolleys and cable cars and a bus stop about every block
BlueMoon
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Waymo cars have far more sensors and redundancy then teslas have. Teslas the only one trying to do it with strictly cameras and no lidar modules.
NovemberEcho
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Well maybe then it only seems like they’re doing good because they have so many censors hiding the bad news