Electronic Noise Cancelling Headsets

My Flight Surgeon said:
If you use good noise canceling headsets, you will be more likely to suffer hearing loss from the music in the bars.
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I guess I'm already screwed as a guy who makes a living tech'ing audio installs and DJ'ing night after night.... and going to "those rave clubs"....and flying airplanes....

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Doug Taylor said:
Excellent. Now all I've got to do is convince the Mrs. that I need to drop several hundred on some Sennheisers!
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I have the Sennheiser PXC-250 noise cancelling headphones (along with an older pair of HD-535's) and I highly recommend them, but only if you want something light and easy to carry. For optimum sound and noise cancelling, as long as you don't mind the size, get the new PXC-450's!

EDIT: Oh crap! I thought you were talking about home audio headphones... not aviation headsets... haha I guess I should've read your whole post. :D

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JaceTheAce said:
I have the Sennheiser PXC-250 noise cancelling headphones (along with an older pair of HD-535's) and I highly recommend them, but only if you want something light and easy to carry. For optimum sound and noise cancelling, as long as you don't mind the size, get the new PXC-450's!

EDIT: Oh crap! I thought you were talking about home audio headphones... not aviation headsets... haha I guess I should've read your whole post. :D
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You dork, these aren't AVS forums! :p
 
MSUDAWG said:
Are the lightweight anr headsets like the telex 750 and the one doug is talking about that are small and dont have big earmuffs good for turboprops too or do you really need one with big ear covers?
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the 750 isn't anr, but it works in turboprops as long as you wear earplugs underneath...the 850 is anr but it doesn't do much in the turboprops.......I've found that wearing earplugs under david clarks without anr works the best in a turboprop......
 
Travisimo said:
I never thought about that, the outside noise and the canceling sound both combining to damage your ear. Sounds scary, so it must be true.
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They don't combine, they CANCEL!! A little High School physics wave theory will clear that up for you. You can see the effect with two people and a slinky if you have one. If you don't hear the sound, that means the wave is not reaching your eardrum, that simple. No wave, no damage. Noise canceling headsets aren't perfect, but if they are functioning properly, they will greatly reduce the impact on your hearing, not add to it.
 
The FAA requirement that a headset must be TSOd is a myth, but UFlyMike (not IFlyMike) has addressed the issue anyway.

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(The Bose Aviation X is far better, anyway.)




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I love my Sennheisers. They're super clear and crisp and they cancel out lots of background noise. If you're struggling to hear and understand clearances they will make a huge difference. You might want to see if you can get the mic tip powered headset to run off the intercom in your airplane, my only complaint is the batteries don't last very long.
 
TonyC said:
The FAA requirement that a headset must be TSOd is a myth, but UFlyMike (not IFlyMike) has addressed the issue anyway.

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(The Bose Aviation X is far better, anyway.)




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I believe that was from his company. The news on that site says that there are inconsistencies with an op spec requiring the use of TSO'd headsets, but if the company says "Use only TSO'd headsets," you can't really get around that, eh? Why cheat the system and possibly get yourself in trouble/ a violation for ignoring op specs?
 
averyrm said:
I believe that was from his company. The news on that site says that there are inconsistencies with an op spec requiring the use of TSO'd headsets, but if the company says "Use only TSO'd headsets," you can't really get around that, eh? Why cheat the system and possibly get yourself in trouble/ a violation for ignoring op specs?
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To avoid any confusion, I'll repeat that I do not use the UFM/QC2 equipment. Having said that, the truth still matters.



I'm a bit unclear on what you consider to be "cheating the system." I see no lie, no fraud, no deception, no trickery, and no gain of unfair advantage. What am I missing?



My post addressed the claim that "there are FAA guys out there checking/citing QC2 users." I'd invite anyone to supply proof that such has occurred. The Inspector would have to cite the regulation which has been violated. Which one would that be?


As for the "TSO Headset" quote above, I'm not privy to its source or authority. Even though it is factually incorrect, it could be enforceable if it's part of the Pilot's Operating Manual. As such, it would be a violation of the airline's policy, which can be more restrictive than the Code of Federal Regulations. As such the prohibition would be airline specific and not directly attributable to the CFR. If the guidance is not part of an FAA approved manual, it is simply a flawed opinion and not enforceable. Again, I emphasize I did not respond to that clip, but rather to the claim of FAA Inspectors running rampant citing pilots for using non-TSOed headsets.





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First, TSO is a standard, not a requirement. You can use any headset you like in the airplane, per the FAA. Company rules, that is different.

I second the Bose. A little spendy, but worth every penny. Light weight, they don't crush your head, and the passive cancelling ain't so bad either (worked fine in a C90). Batteries last plenty long too.
 
Hi Doug,

If you are looking at Sennheisers, make the trip to Aircraft Spruce in Peachtree City to buy them. I just picked up a pair of HMEC-25KA from them. I saved $85.00 because they only cost $520.00 there. The next cheapest pair I could find online was $615.00.
 
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