Driving Record....

dbakeg00

dbakeg00

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I am filling out my application at airline apps and they have a section that asks me about traffic violations. I have recieved two or three traffic violations in the past, but I have no idea the month or year. Does anyone know how I can order a copy of my driving record so i can provide accurate info? Does having 2, 3, or 4 tickets hurt your chances of getting on with the regionals?
 
Jetcareers > Pilots Toolbox > Request National Driving Record (clicky)

And depending on the recency of the multiple driving violations:

This is a question about a DUI, but it's probably a good start to get a feel for how multiple moving violations are seen from a manager of pilot selection: (clicky)
 
dbakeg00 said:
I am filling out my application at airline apps and they have a section that asks me about traffic violations. I have recieved two or three traffic violations in the past, but I have no idea the month or year. Does anyone know how I can order a copy of my driving record so i can provide accurate info? Does having 2, 3, or 4 tickets hurt your chances of getting on with the regionals?
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None of my driving violations showed up in my NDR record OR state record. I called the county courthouse where I received the violation and they had the record of it.

When I was interviewing, I had 3 tickets ranging from 7 years ago to <1 year, and a suspended license on my state record. I was still called by over a dozen carriers even though I had them on my applications.

Here's something most up and comers don't realize - regionals can't be picky nowadays :).
 
dbakeg00 said:
I am filling out my application at airline apps and they have a section that asks me about traffic violations. I have recieved two or three traffic violations in the past, but I have no idea the month or year. Does anyone know how I can order a copy of my driving record so i can provide accurate info? Does having 2, 3, or 4 tickets hurt your chances of getting on with the regionals?
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I was filling out the same application and I seems like they want to know of every traffic violation you have ever had! I have not had any moving viotation in over 5 years. Doesn't your driving record get wiped clean after so many years without a violation. I had a whole bunch of them when I was younger and had to go to a drivers retraining course, but that was like 9 years ago when I was a teenager. Do they really want to know all about that as well? Most applications I have filled out only want to know about the last five years.
 
Shorts465 said:
Doesn't your driving record get wiped clean after so many years without a violation. I had a whole bunch of them when I was younger and had to go to a drivers retraining course, but that was like 9 years ago when I was a teenager. Do they really want to know all about that as well? Most applications I have filled out only want to know about the last five years.
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Yeah, a violation gets deleted after 2 or 3 years. I forgot which one:confused:
 
Sprint100 said:
Yeah, a violation gets deleted after 2 or 3 years. I forgot which one:confused:
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It depends on the individual state. In illinois a moving violation stays on your state record for 3 years, if the violation led to a suspension then it is on your record for 7 years from the date of reinstatement of your license. To get an actual copy of your driving record you will have to go to a DMV in your state. The NDR will only list suspensions, DUI's,DWI's, and violent driving crimes.
 
i have few tickets under my name and they never show up on my driving record... hell I just got a new DL and I still have the 'safe driver' on there... that is supposed to go away after you get 1 ticket... I got my driving record and nothing
 
taseal said:
i have few tickets under my name and they never show up on my driving record... hell I just got a new DL and I still have the 'safe driver' on there... that is supposed to go away after you get 1 ticket... I got my driving record and nothing
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I'm not sure why but sometimes the tickets aren't reported to the insurance CO or even on the state driving record. In fact, all my tickets never showed up on my state driving record or insurance record (which is the one I cared about!). I had gotten all my tickets out of state though, so that was probably a factor.

Just so people know, just because it's not on a government record doesn't mean the info isn't or wasn't out there. There are private background companies that make a huge amount of money combing thru public records (such as you getting a ticket) and selling to companies asking for background checks (such as an airline).

It boils down to this - RTFQ an answer it as truthfully as you can on ANY application. Falsifying an application is immediate grounds for termination at my company, and there's nothing the union can do.

If the application asks for ANY moving violations - put them down. If it asks for moving violations within the last 3 years - put any down you have gotten within the last 3 years. Simple as that. Also, even if you did a traffic school, in most states you still plead guilty to the ticket. Keep that in mind. Traffic school (depending on the state) generally doesn't remove the ticket from the county records.

However, if you went to court and the ticket was thrown out, then I wouldn't put it down. You were found innocent.
 
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Do NOT base your answer to any application question on what you think the employer will find out. The private background checking services used by employers very often return information which doesn't show up on the government reports. Unless you have a LOT of moving violations, you aren't likely to get denied employment on that basis. If the airline catches you in a lie, however, your application will get tossed every time.
 
Im not saying I only want to report whats on my official record...I will be honest about them all..I just dont know the exact number of tickets I have recieved and the month and day I recieved them.
 
wheelsup said:
Here's something most up and comers don't realize - regionals can't be picky nowadays :).
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Yet, stapling your paperwork in the wrong order will send an otherwise perfectly good applicant home without even a chance to interview at XJT.
 
flyguy said:
Yet, stapling your paperwork in the wrong order will send an otherwise perfectly good applicant home without even a chance to interview at XJT.
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I found the companies based more in the midwest were a lot friendlier (ie less "anal") when it came to the whole interview process. There's something about the East Coast (more specifically, northeast) that just gets into peoples blood :D.
 
From what I understand the zero point tickets don't get reported to insurance. Quite a few states have a 5 year records hold before it's erased, but each state can be different. A high ranking representative from ASA came to my school and gave a presentation a few months ago and said he "wouldn't ever let someone with more than a couple speeding tickets get by him in the interview" but two weeks later an instructor I know got hired having 5 speeding tickets. Not sure how many actually showed on his record...but it sounds like it mostly comes down to the violation. 65mph in a 55 zone is obviously easier to overlook than wreckless endangerment. Just be careful and be prepared to explain it if it does show up, but like said before, they can only be so picky.
 
dbakeg00 said:
Im not saying I only want to report whats on my official record...I will be honest about them all..I just dont know the exact number of tickets I have recieved and the month and day I recieved them.
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Like I said in my original post, call the county courthouse where you got the ticket. They will have the records of date, place, offense, etc. That's what I did.

Now, if you can't remember all the tickets you have received, then maybe you have too many tickets to worry about :D.

This is also a good time to say start your job prep/application stuff early on, and keep everything you have from job application to job application. I filled out quite a few applications a couple years ago and have kept my 10 year job history, residence history, driving history, etc ever since. It's made applying for different jobs much easier, instead of having to remember all that info again.
 
You can have two DUI's and get hired at certain airlines. Oh wait, that's just for management positions.
 
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