Do you guys get mad?

cuy

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I have a question. It's an odd one, but I think it's worth a shot at asking.

For those of you who work at an FBO or are owners of such a business: Do you get angry or bitter when a student decides to join a flying club at another airport while he or she is still flying at your FBO?

Just curious at the dynamics behind it and how it all ends up playing out between the student and the FBO.

-Cuy
 
No, a good instructor will not. Then again good instructors stay busy.

We want our students to gain perspective and experience so long as they do it safely.


The only time we get mad is when a student takes out a $70,000 loan on his way to any three letter certificate mill.
 
The only time we get mad is when a student takes out a $70,000 loan on his way to any three letter certificate mill.

No reason to get mad about that. S/he isn't going to get a job and will be stuck with the loan that cannot be discharged in bk. You should be laughing.
 
No reason to get mad about that. S/he isn't going to get a job and will be stuck with the loan that cannot be discharged in bk. You should be laughing.
If I were the mexican juarez drug cartel I would know exactly where to hire pilots to fly my products into the country.
 
Just a follow up question:

Now would the FBO owner get man to the point of ruining the relationship between him and the student?
 
For those of you who work at an FBO or are owners of such a business: Do you get angry or bitter when a student decides to join a flying club at another airport while he or she is still flying at your FBO?

No. Why should I?

There are times when I don't understand why a person would choose a competitor, but it doesn't make me angry or bitter. I just don't understand.

Now would the FBO owner get man to the point of ruining the relationship between him and the student?

No. At least they shouldn't.


Here's another one of the important lessons I've learned with business: Nobody cares about you. It sounds harsh, but it's the truth. Your customers don't owe you anything. It doesn't matter if you're running a grocery store, car wash, FBO, flight school, or any other business. The fact is, you're running a business, not a charity. It's great if you have loyal customers who want your business to succeed, but you shouldn't, and can't, depend on their goodwill to keep you alive.

It's not reasonable to expect people to keep using your services if you're inferior to your competition. In the case of an FBO/flight school, that could be any number of things. Aircraft types available, quality of aircraft, availability on the schedule, quality of instructors, rental rates, location, the list could go on.

For instance, you can't expect a customer to put up with delays because you're short staffed and working really hard. That doesn't matter. It's not the customer's problem. They aren't obligated to stick with you just because you seem nice, or are trying to keep the business around in tough times, or whatever. Being nice isn't enough. The bottom line is that if the customer can find better options elsewhere, they should go there.

It's the owner/manager/employees' job to make sure there are no better options. If their customers start leaving, they shouldn't get mad at the customer, they should figure out a way to improve their operation so that customers have no desire to leave.
 
No. Why should I?

There are times when I don't understand why a person would choose a competitor, but it doesn't make me angry or bitter. I just don't understand.



No. At least they shouldn't.


Here's another one of the important lessons I've learned with business: Nobody cares about you. It sounds harsh, but it's the truth. Your customers don't owe you anything. It doesn't matter if you're running a grocery store, car wash, FBO, flight school, or any other business. The fact is, you're running a business, not a charity. It's great if you have loyal customers who want your business to succeed, but you shouldn't, and can't, depend on their goodwill to keep you alive.

It's not reasonable to expect people to keep using your services if you're inferior to your competition. In the case of an FBO/flight school, that could be any number of things. Aircraft types available, quality of aircraft, availability on the schedule, quality of instructors, rental rates, location, the list could go on.

For instance, you can't expect a customer to put up with delays because you're short staffed and working really hard. That doesn't matter. It's not the customer's problem. They aren't obligated to stick with you just because you seem nice, or are trying to keep the business around in tough times, or whatever. Being nice isn't enough. The bottom line is that if the customer can find better options elsewhere, they should go there.

It's the owner/manager/employees' job to make sure there are no better options. If their customers start leaving, they shouldn't get mad at the customer, they should figure out a way to improve their operation so that customers have no desire to leave.

Holly cow, this guy has it figured out. Thanks for posting this up!

One of my students just dropped in next door to get checked out in a C-207. I think that is great since we don't offer a C-207. Not even close. The funny thing is this student came to me from another school that offered nothing at all, so it is funny to see the whole thing go around... He is doing what is best for him and is leveraging all available opportunities and that is great for him! I don't fault him for a second!
 
as usual, jrh has made a clear point which addresses the issue.

A business owner need to retain clients by providing a service. If that service can be obtained elsewhere to the clients benefit, the client will persue that avenue.

I can't fathom why an owner would get mad about it. It would be unprofessional and all the more reason not to retain the business' service
 
If I were the mexican juarez drug cartel I would know exactly where to hire pilots to fly my products into the country.

You know, I'm quite shocked that more of that doesn't actually go on than currently does. Well, I guess for all I knwo there might be a LOT of it going on, but I'd think that the cartels would be recruiting smuggling pilots from Tuscon or Nogales or something.
 
You know, I'm quite shocked that more of that doesn't actually go on than currently does. Well, I guess for all I knwo there might be a LOT of it going on, but I'd think that the cartels would be recruiting smuggling pilots from Tuscon or Nogales or something.

Yes.
 
I trained and rented from 4 different flight schools at my last domicile, of which 2 were flying clubs that I was a member of. I also made friends with the owners of each one and the majority of their CFI's and not one of them got mad or expressed displeasure that I also flew elsewhere. They knew that I did this because of the unique offerings of their respective flight schools--one specialized in tailwheel & aerobatics, another had twins, and the other 2 was based on aircraft & instructor availability.
 
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