Difference between "PIC U/S" and "P U/T"

cadbury

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Recently, I got accepted for a job in Asia. As I am undergoing a licensing conversion process, I am required to declare the flying hours in the application.
Since, I do not have multi-crew operated flying hours, mostly are single engine airplane, I have a little problem in filling up the application.

My question is, what difference between "PIC U/S" (pilot-in-command under supervision) and "P U/T" (pilot-under-instruction)? Can somebody kindly enlight me?

Thank you.
 
I'm fairly certain that PIC U/S is times where you logged both PIC and dual received and P U/T is when you just logged dual received and were not qualified in the aircraft. P U/T would also be for cases where you are logging SIC and not rated as a PIC (typed) in an aircraft.
 
Well, I'm not sure about Asia, but in Europe here is when we log each (disclaimer, there are some exceptions and this is just a general guide):
PICUS : You log this during (successful) flight tests (aka checkrides) or in a multi pilot aircraft when the Commander has designated you to perform the functions of PIC. Only one pilot logs PIC in most cases. A pilot who is properly rated, but still receiving instruction (in the case where the instructor logs PIC) for differences training or towards a new rating, DOES NOT log PIC, but rather Pilot Under Training. For example, if you have your private pilot license, and are receiving training towards an instrument rating, you DO NOT log PIC like you would under FAA rules.

So, in Europe, there are folks who actually arrive in the right hand seat of an airliner with 250 hours total time (or less) and only 100 hours of PIC. They wouldn't meet the PIC requirements to upgrade to an ATPL when the time comes, so there are times that they act as PIC, but under the guidance of a Captain, hence PICUS.

If you have an instructor on board, but they are not logging PIC, for example you are rated and they are just acting as a safety pilot, then you can log PIC. Remember, only one pilot can log PIC. (Remember what I said above, if you are successful in a flight test, you can log PICUS and the examiner logs PIC).

P U/T: Pilot under training, otherwise known as dual received.

When I came to Europe, I had to go through my whole logbook and recalculate my PIC time.

So, like I said, I gave the European definitions, so it may or may not be the same as in Asia.
 
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