Demise of a prototype

[DE727UPS]

Can anyone identify the type or airport? Photo credit to my friend Wade Sackett

 

[Roger Roger]

Windscreen has me saying Mitsubishi jet, and I know that was recently canceled. Just total random guess, but Moses Water Hole?

 

[DropTank]

Nothing of value was lost.

The Japanese have such strengths with components but lose it with large systems like airplanes.

They engineer it for so long that it's obsolete by the time it hits the market.

 

[Cessnaflyer]

It would be cheating if I answered.

 

[SurferLucas]

MRJ, in Moses Hole!

 

[Roger Roger]

MRJ, in Moses Hole!

Frist psot

 

[Cessnaflyer]

I was snooping on Wade's FB and he had Grant County Flying Club listed on his profile. Is there a new flying club at MWH I haven't heard about?

 

[CFIscare]

 

[Minuteman]

Arguably a better end than the 728JET.

 

[fholbert]

Can anyone identify the type or airport? Photo credit to my friend Wade SackettView attachment 70282View attachment 70281

Caterpillar 320?

Victorville Airport?

 

[DE727UPS]

I'm not sure. I think he's at QX now but live in MWH.

 

[DE727UPS]

Caterpillar 320?

Victorville Airport?

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Naw. Roger Roger got it on the first post. That CAT must be a universal plane killer though.

 

[Skåning]

Mitsubishi were idiots from the beginning making the MRJ. They had the hubris to think US scope clauses would be relaxed to accommodate their heavy RJ. Who was giving them that advice, because there was absolutely zero indication that that was ever going to happen, even back in the early 2010s.

In 2015:

Without any relaxation of scope clauses, no regional carrier in the U.S. can enjoy next-generation aircraft, including the [Embraer] E-Jet E2...So we are very confident in the future [scope clause relief] will come.”

Mitsubishi Bullish on U.S., Despite Scope Concerns | AIN

If scope clauses remain in effect, the company expects it will sell more of the smaller MRJ70.

www.ainonline.com

Then in 2019:

“When we established our contract with TSH, the outlook on the regional market was very different. The scope clause, however was not relaxed as anticipated,” Mitsubishi Aircraft president, Hisakazu Mizutani, said in a statement.

Mitsubishi Aircraft says Trans States cancels order for 50 SpaceJet regional jets

Japan's Mitsubishi Aircraft said on Thursday one of its biggest customers, Trans States Holdings (TSH), has cancelled an order for 50 of its SpaceJet M90s because the aircraft do not comply with U.S. union rules on regional jet use.

www.reuters.com

Even Stevie Wonder could have seen this coming.

 

[Hiboglossi]

Mitsubishi were idiots from the beginning making the MRJ. They had the hubris to think US scope clauses would be relaxed to accommodate their heavy RJ. Who was giving them that advice, because there was absolutely zero indication that that was ever going to happen, even back in the early 2010s.

I mean hadn't scope clauses been relaxed numerous times before? Not a terrible guess they would be again, and I'm surprised they weren't. In fact, chances are scope clauses might be relaxed thanks to bankruptcy contracts during the next downturn. Maybe if Mitsubishi had shelved the project for a few more years instead of cancelling it altogether...

 

[Skåning]

Not a terrible guess they would be again, and I'm surprised they weren't. In fact, chances are scope clauses might be relaxed thanks to bankruptcy contracts during the next downturn.

Not at all, ALPA had no appetite to relieve management of scope at any of the majors. If anything, the last 20 years has seen a tightening of scope restrictions. My shop had zero scope and as of our last contract (2022) has a robust clause with weight, seat, and ratio to mainline language. Again, nobody in the early 2010s ever indicated that they would loosen scope. Mitsubishi just pulled that crap out of thin air that they could change the market with their product.