Delta ATP CTP
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mastermags
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Are you sure its not Delta Connection CTP?
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Who am I? Where are my pants?
It is a tough call for some as to weather it is worth it to pay for a CTP, or if it is more cost beneficial to get hired at a regional and let them pay for it.
This is something I posted over on APC a while back:
Consider the finances of both situations:
- You go to a regional airline and let them soak up the cost of your ATP and type rating. You "save" $6,000, but in the process have to live on regional airline training pay for 3-4 months while you go through the program (just for argument's sake, let's call that $2,000/month of pay, but that's pretty generous). Most of the regional hiring bonuses require you to stay at the airline for a time after training in order to cash in, so you're not even going to get most of that bonus because you're planning on leaving the regional quickly. You leave in short order to a major airline, and live with a couple months of training pay (let's call that $4,000/month) before you get to the line and a major-airline-level paycheck (4-6-9 months later than you would if you'd been hired by a major directly out of the AF).
- You pay out of pocket for an ATP, (-$6,000) but are able to get hired at a major right away as soon as you leave the AF. You make major-airline training pay during training ($4,000/month instead of $2,000/month at the regional) and then move on to the major league salary.
Do the math. By the time you get on the line at a major airline, which route is more financially beneficial? What about putting a pricetag on the months of potential seniority lost at the major job during the detour through the regionals?
If someone is riding a desk for their last years in the Air Force, and need the currency/recency to move on to the majors as well as needing a CTP and/or an ATP, then of course it is smart to go get hired at a regional and let them soak up your CTP and ATP costs.
If you're going to be current when you leave the military, and you have the real possibility of going to the majors immediately upon starting terminal leave, it isn't really even a question about which path is more financially smart.
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If it's crappy weather, I don't know whether it's worth flying at all.
Misspelling noted.
I think I read this before actually... very good points. And I have some reasons (offline reasons) why a regional might not be possible for me... at least in the near to mid term, so might as well knock out an ATP now.
Any good ideas where to get the practical portion of the ATP accomplished?
I know we're not supposed to buy type ratings, but if you compare ATP flight school's program where the CTP, written, Seminole time, and checkride costs $11,000 with a place like CPT that does CTP, the written, and a 737 type with lodging and food included for $13,800 - that seems like a much better deal.
I know we're not supposed to buy type ratings, but if you compare ATP flight school's program where the CTP, written, Seminole time, and checkride costs $11,000 with a place like CPT that does CTP, the written, and a 737 type with lodging and food included for $13,800 - that seems like a much better deal.
Finny
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If I didn't do the regionals this was my plan. I believe some of them are eligible for GI benefits as well, but I didn't do much research down that road before I jumped to the regionals.
Flyinthrew
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I'm pretty sure the Delta ATC-CTP is the one I'll end up doing when the time comes. It's hometown so I can crash at some family member's house for the week (and eat all their food). According to the very prompt and detailed email I received after filling in the form that is linked they'll be approved for VA benefits around June. I'll have some decent time in the mighty PA-44 by then so the ATP practical will be simple, but the prospect of just paying a little bit more and tacking on the type rating is intriguing.
Check out this place I just stumbled upon today - https://mil2atp.com/mil-to-airlines/
They partner with the Delta CTP, do your practical, give you Emerald Coast interview prep, give you an application review service, and test prep, all for $8500.
Finny
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SOLD!
Top of my list right now. That's a terrific deal.
Flyinthrew
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Yeah, it's right up the street from here. I've looked at it a few times. Seems legit. It is a good discount off the 'a la carte'.
hammerhat
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Just to make sure I read this correctly. So I pay 14k, show up with my commercial and hours, and I get:
1. CTP course
2. ATP written
3. ATP practical with no limitations
4. B737 type
5. Lodging and food
The lodging and food is only at their California location, but according to their website and follow-on email, yes. Have not attended, so can't verify of course.