DC-6 at 1TE4 Zuehl
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JaceTheAce
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Neat pictures. It appears that that DC-6 was a former UAL airplane.
Here it is on satellite view:
http://maps.yahoo.com/#mvt=s&lat=29.496701&lon=-98.156932&zoom=19&q1=Zuehl Airport, Marion, TX
Here it is on satellite view:
http://maps.yahoo.com/#mvt=s&lat=29.496701&lon=-98.156932&zoom=19&q1=Zuehl Airport, Marion, TX
Hacker15e
Who am I? Where are my pants?
The rumor mill says that the owner of that DC-6 flew it in, and can't get it back airborne either:
- Because of it's weight on the grass strip, or
- Because of some FAA paperwork not being completed properly.
Any ideas?
We fly over Zuehl every day in Randolph T-38s -- it's our south VFR entry point -- and I look at that airplane every time.
- Because of it's weight on the grass strip, or
- Because of some FAA paperwork not being completed properly.
Any ideas?
We fly over Zuehl every day in Randolph T-38s -- it's our south VFR entry point -- and I look at that airplane every time.
Maddog1974
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It looks as though the tail number is N5517D but the information that comes up is for a Bonanza. I would love to find more info on that aircraft. I have a friend who would like to investigate finds like this one.
Any idea on how to get info on the airplane?? On the mooney I mean!
Any idea on how to get info on the airplane?? On the mooney I mean!
mooneyguy
been around forever
It's my understanding the mooney is owned by an FAA maintenance inspector. The guy who told me about it is an A&P IA, he said he wouldn't touch it. been sitting for too long!
mooneyguy
been around forever
The guy who owns it is a salvage dealer. He bought it, had it flown in (would have paid to watch that landing) with intentions of parting her out, or reconditioning it for resale. I'm not sure what happened, but I do know there has been some legal fighting over it! The co-op is not happy about it being there.
I'm sure you know but Zuehl was the Randolph auxiliary airfield, opened in 1932 I believe. It had 2 paved runways one of which is closed that's where the dc-6 sits. They have grown over now so the runway is considered grass.
you should go by there sometime and check the dc-6 out in person. You can walk right up to it.
Tell ya what, I'll trade ya...get me a ride in a 38 and I'll fly you out to Zuehl and show you around!
Max1594
Well-Known Member
I think its N578AS, http://flightaware.com/resources/registration/N578AS
DPApilot
GUYSH! GUYSH! GUYSH!
mooneyguy
been around forever
Hacker here is the owners side to the story!
"lets get some of the facts straight, it was landed on a 2000 foot X 40 foot, (700 meter strip) directly behind the aircraft in a wheat field. The entire landing roll was less than 900 feet, after touchdown about 150 feet down the runway."
"Because somehow the envious iliterates that ran the board of directors at the airfield managed through local politics, and a renegade Texas Frivilous lawsuit attorney, that was appointed as the "community attorney" "Tom Joseph" to have a temporary injunction to keep the DC-6 from landing at the Zuehl Flying community. This put forth a hearing for the rights of property owners to land heavy aircraft with an unlimited wings span at Zuehl. This hearing was won in court, as there was no deed restrictions, CC&R , or bylaw restrictions mentioning these resrtrictions, with regards to weight, or wingspan, and were simply imposed without a legal vote or authority to harass one individual property owner. However the judge made a seperate ruling with regards to the DC-6. As a ruling the judge did rule that there was no restrictions to land heavy aircraft at Zuehl, or no wing span restrictions, however with regard to the DC-6, he made a seperate ruling, not to land until a jury hearing, in my opion he ruled that the DC-6 was a large enough aircraft that he did not want to make a personal decision, based on local politics, so he elected to kick it off to a jury trial sometime in the future. As the DC-6 was scheduled to fly in that day pending a fair lawful, decision from Judge Steal, it was flown into the alternate strip made in the wheat feild by simply rolling the ground with a roller, as alternate, then taxied onto the strip the afternoon of the ruling. As far as I am concerned this ruling was made against my constitutional rights as an American Citizen, Airline Transport Pilot in the United States of America As a type rated pilot on the DC-6 and DC-7, or any other aircraft that can land legally within the United States, with the performance data charts provided for that aircraft to land and take off at ZUEHL"
"The future of the DC-6 has been put on hold, as the last five years have been spent on expensive litigation for no reason, other than to satisfy a few illiterate egos, and the sheep(girlymen) that tag along in there foot steps. The reason it is not at another larger airport is simple. It is to big on the ramp for smaller airports, and it would be to expensive, and no facilities to work on it, or allow easy access at larger airports.
This was a real pain at the last large airport, Oakland International, The only place I could keep it to work on it was in the middle of the airport, literally. I had to get tower permision to go back and forth to work on it. And at the smaller airports, I get the standard public airport hassle, "you can not work on airplanes on the ramp", so where are you supposed to work on it? I came across Zuehl, and thought it was the perfect solutution. I flew the S2-F in, parked it in the hanger and nobody said a word. And anybody that knows the S2-F, it needs a hard surface. All of the property around Zuehl was dug out and filled with about 2 feet of limestone foundation in the 1930´s, by the WPA, and the Army corp of Engineers. The ground is basically industructable. So the board started to convince everyone that the DC-6 was going to come there, and destroy the airport, and therefore they enacted an illegal restriction, as a safety restriction, with regards to weight, and wingspan, after I bought my property, and hanger. The bottom line is my toys were bigger than their ercoupe patrol craft, and oversize model airplanes that accomodate a pilot. And I do not say this to insult owners of ercoupes, as I think the aircraft are cool, and I also admire anyone that has the patience and craftsmanship to put together an experimental airplane, and enjoy flying their prize.
And looking for ideas as to the future of the DC-6. I still have plans to build a hanger big enough for 2 DC-6´s, and all of the other aircraft, pending no more litigation.--Any Ideas?--- "
So he didn't even land it on the runway. He landed it on the strip where she sits now...and touched down and stopped her with only an 800 foot roll! Now he cannot take off from that short strip, but he can (per the aircraft performance charts) take off no problem from the active runway at zuehl, of course this is all pending the out come of the litigation. He does have plans to rehab it and keep it flying.
Another tid bit of info...she spent time in both Air force and NAVY service as a C118. Even spent time at RAFB (first duty station RAFB 1954), so in a sense she is back home again, since Zuehl is/was RAFB Aux field.
"lets get some of the facts straight, it was landed on a 2000 foot X 40 foot, (700 meter strip) directly behind the aircraft in a wheat field. The entire landing roll was less than 900 feet, after touchdown about 150 feet down the runway."
"Because somehow the envious iliterates that ran the board of directors at the airfield managed through local politics, and a renegade Texas Frivilous lawsuit attorney, that was appointed as the "community attorney" "Tom Joseph" to have a temporary injunction to keep the DC-6 from landing at the Zuehl Flying community. This put forth a hearing for the rights of property owners to land heavy aircraft with an unlimited wings span at Zuehl. This hearing was won in court, as there was no deed restrictions, CC&R , or bylaw restrictions mentioning these resrtrictions, with regards to weight, or wingspan, and were simply imposed without a legal vote or authority to harass one individual property owner. However the judge made a seperate ruling with regards to the DC-6. As a ruling the judge did rule that there was no restrictions to land heavy aircraft at Zuehl, or no wing span restrictions, however with regard to the DC-6, he made a seperate ruling, not to land until a jury hearing, in my opion he ruled that the DC-6 was a large enough aircraft that he did not want to make a personal decision, based on local politics, so he elected to kick it off to a jury trial sometime in the future. As the DC-6 was scheduled to fly in that day pending a fair lawful, decision from Judge Steal, it was flown into the alternate strip made in the wheat feild by simply rolling the ground with a roller, as alternate, then taxied onto the strip the afternoon of the ruling. As far as I am concerned this ruling was made against my constitutional rights as an American Citizen, Airline Transport Pilot in the United States of America As a type rated pilot on the DC-6 and DC-7, or any other aircraft that can land legally within the United States, with the performance data charts provided for that aircraft to land and take off at ZUEHL"
"The future of the DC-6 has been put on hold, as the last five years have been spent on expensive litigation for no reason, other than to satisfy a few illiterate egos, and the sheep(girlymen) that tag along in there foot steps. The reason it is not at another larger airport is simple. It is to big on the ramp for smaller airports, and it would be to expensive, and no facilities to work on it, or allow easy access at larger airports.
This was a real pain at the last large airport, Oakland International, The only place I could keep it to work on it was in the middle of the airport, literally. I had to get tower permision to go back and forth to work on it. And at the smaller airports, I get the standard public airport hassle, "you can not work on airplanes on the ramp", so where are you supposed to work on it? I came across Zuehl, and thought it was the perfect solutution. I flew the S2-F in, parked it in the hanger and nobody said a word. And anybody that knows the S2-F, it needs a hard surface. All of the property around Zuehl was dug out and filled with about 2 feet of limestone foundation in the 1930´s, by the WPA, and the Army corp of Engineers. The ground is basically industructable. So the board started to convince everyone that the DC-6 was going to come there, and destroy the airport, and therefore they enacted an illegal restriction, as a safety restriction, with regards to weight, and wingspan, after I bought my property, and hanger. The bottom line is my toys were bigger than their ercoupe patrol craft, and oversize model airplanes that accomodate a pilot. And I do not say this to insult owners of ercoupes, as I think the aircraft are cool, and I also admire anyone that has the patience and craftsmanship to put together an experimental airplane, and enjoy flying their prize.
And looking for ideas as to the future of the DC-6. I still have plans to build a hanger big enough for 2 DC-6´s, and all of the other aircraft, pending no more litigation.--Any Ideas?--- "
So he didn't even land it on the runway. He landed it on the strip where she sits now...and touched down and stopped her with only an 800 foot roll! Now he cannot take off from that short strip, but he can (per the aircraft performance charts) take off no problem from the active runway at zuehl, of course this is all pending the out come of the litigation. He does have plans to rehab it and keep it flying.
Another tid bit of info...she spent time in both Air force and NAVY service as a C118. Even spent time at RAFB (first duty station RAFB 1954), so in a sense she is back home again, since Zuehl is/was RAFB Aux field.
